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Buddha and The Rich Young Ruler Parable of the Bible

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Rich Young Ruler Parable from Mark 10:17-22


And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"

And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.'"

And he said to him, "Teacher, all these I have kept from my youth."

And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, "You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."

Disheartened by the saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great
possessions.


I've always wondered if this was possible. I know that its commonly accepted by most historians that Buddha was born 600 years before Christ. But after reading this parable many times over, I thought to myself, is it possible that the dates were messed up regarding Buddha's
birth?

600 years is not a huge gap for some sort of historical descrepency to have taken place. Particularly since man has just started keeping accurate historical records a bit under a millenium or so.

So what do you all think? Was the "Rich Young Ruler" of Mark 10:17 the Buddha? I'd like to get some of your opinions.


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No. Buddha was died ~500 or so years before Jesus. Also, Buddha was from a part of the world that is now known a Nepal. If Buddha could travel to Israel, then why couldn't Jesus travel to India and learn the teachings of Buddha?


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1) Buddha did not seek Eternal Life no



2) ALL Historical documents prove that Buddha existed at LEAST 500 years before Christ. Buddhism began far earlier than Christianity.... that is FACT





3)Buddha did not crave earthly possessions...he did not put value into ANY of his physical or traditional treasures





Your labelling Buddhism as a self serving religion, and mischaracterization of Buddha shows a HUGE LACK of education on who Buddha was, and what Buddhism is about.....


But at least you ASKED a question about it, on that note, I'm happy you did...please try and learn though....


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Here is a really good source for the history of Buddhism. Please take a little time to read through the web site.

http://sgi-usa.org/buddhism/resourc...ourceguide.html


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Somehow the forum ate my post. sad


laughing I was wondering what happened. laughing


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I've always wondered if this was possible. I know that its commonly accepted by most historians that Buddha was born 600 years before Christ. But after reading this parable many times over, I thought to myself, is it possible that the dates were messed up regarding Buddha's
birth?

600 years is not a huge gap for some sort of historical descrepency to have taken place. Particularly since man has just started keeping accurate historical records a bit under a millenium or so.

So what do you all think? Was the "Rich Young Ruler" of Mark 10:17 the Buddha? I'd like to get some of your opinions.
Buddha entered an ascetic life in his search for enlightenment, forsaking all worldly things as well as entering a severe fast. This is why he gained followers initially, he gave up everything to learn the truth. He did this immediately following leaving his father's palace and his inheritance. Your hypothesis falls down when this fact is considered.


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Why did Jesus tell the rich man to give away all of his possessions? Today, some of the richest people in the US are Christians. Should all Christians today, give away all of there property and money?


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Why did Jesus tell the rich man to give away all of his possessions? Today, some of the richest people in the US are Christians. Should all Christians today, give away all of there property and money?
Personally, I think it depends on where your heart lies. Joseph of Aramathea was a high ranking merchant with a lot of money, he wasn't told the same thing. If your wealth leads to pride and self pleasuring and does not leads to a greater aiding of one's fellow man, then it must be given up to attain a proper state of mind/being.


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Buddha entered an ascetic life in his search for enlightenment, forsaking all worldly things as well as entering a severe fast. This is why he gained followers initially, he gave up everything to learn the truth. He did this immediately following leaving his father's palace and his inheritance. Your hypothesis falls down when this fact is considered.


Hmmm...I think what you've listed above actually supports my hypothesis, particularly since the young ruler was in a discontented state about life, much like Siddhartha Gautama was upon realizing the fickleness of worldly pleasures.


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ummm, no, what you posted originally sounds like the opposite of what Siddhartha did.


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Hmmm...I think what you've listed above actually supports my hypothesis, particularly since the young ruler was in a discontented state about life, much like Siddhartha Gautama was upon realizing the fickleness of worldly pleasures.


Except that Budda achieved enlightenment without consulting anyone in particualar.


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Hmmm...I think what you've listed above actually supports my hypothesis, particularly since the young ruler was in a discontented state about life, much like Siddhartha Gautama was upon realizing the fickleness of worldly pleasures.



Everybody was in a discontented state of life.....


Buddha existed before Christ.....get over it.


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Everybody was in a discontented state of life.....


Buddha existed before Christ.....get over it.


I wonder if Thundar is ignoring you. eek!


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Everybody was in a discontented state of life.....


Buddha existed before Christ.....get over it.


I seemed to have touched a nerve with some of you over such a simple-innocent inquiry. So let me redirect the thread topic for a bit, and ask those who oppose my "hypothesis" a few more questions.

What do you think the end result would be, if you found out that the ideology you currently followed, was based on purposely misleading information?

Would you still hold on to your beliefs as firmly as you do now? Or would you continue to follow the same path, despite having a firm understanding of the truth that had been presented to you?

I'll answer these questions myself, as soon as I get a few responses from you all.


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I seemed to have touched a nerve with some of you over such a simple-innocent inquiry. So let me redirect the thread topic for a bit, and ask those who oppose my "hypothesis" a few more questions.

What do you think the end result would be, if you found out that the ideology you currently followed, was based on purposely misleading information?

Would you still hold on to your beliefs as firmly as you do now? Or would you continue to follow the same path, despite having a firm understanding of the truth that had been presented to you?

I'll answer these questions myself, as soon as I get a few responses from you all.


I don't care about the past. I am a practical man. If it works, it works.

If a doctor gave you a pueblo, and you got better, would you stop taking the sugar pills?

Buddha was just a man, nothing more, just like Jesus.


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I seemed to have touched a nerve with some of you over such a simple-innocent inquiry. So let me redirect the thread topic for a bit, and ask those who oppose my "hypothesis" a few more questions.

What do you think the end result would be, if you found out that the ideology you currently followed, was based on purposely misleading information?

Would you still hold on to your beliefs as firmly as you do now? Or would you continue to follow the same path, despite having a firm understanding of the truth that had been presented to you?

I'll answer these questions myself, as soon as I get a few responses from you all.


The time in which the philosophy was created makes no difference, it shouldn't even matter why Bhudda did what he did or learned what he did. And I couldn't care less.

Fact remains however that your hypothesis just isn't true. It's simple fact.


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I seemed to have touched a nerve with some of you over such a simple-innocent inquiry. ...


Yes, lies have that effect on me. big grin


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I seemed to have touched a nerve with some of you over such a simple-innocent inquiry. So let me redirect the thread topic for a bit, and ask those who oppose my "hypothesis" a few more questions.

What do you think the end result would be, if you found out that the ideology you currently followed, was based on purposely misleading information?

Would you still hold on to your beliefs as firmly as you do now? Or would you continue to follow the same path, despite having a firm understanding of the truth that had been presented to you?

I'll answer these questions myself, as soon as I get a few responses from you all.
I would change my belief accordingly and tell others about it also, which I would soon be stoned......

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