Superman vs Juggernaut (no superspeed, no forcefield)
Okay, these two fight to the death... Superman fights without superspeed (like in the Justice League cartoon) and the Juggernaut fights without his force field... who wins?
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Superman could never dish out any physical damage to Juggernaut even without Juggernauts Shield, and his only chance is T-vo, but with even his agility it should be enough to get his helmet off a few times.
Juggernaut gets his wins because he doesn't have to much trouble grabbing or tagging agile people up close, witch is where superman needs to be to take his helmet off.
How? Because of T-vo, he has to get his helmet off first. Superman not just gonna take it off, usually it takes a pretty good force to get it off. Im not saying superman couldn't get it off with one solid yank, but with no Superspeed, hes is acutally at a huge disadvantage, because he has to get close, a place where no heavy hitter wants to be when the place is Juggernaut.
Omg. first off, in the movie Juggernaut slammed into the wall because when he got within 5 feet of that kid his powers went away. I hope you knew that.. didn't you??? So it was a normal human running full speed, head first into a wall.
Second Subsonic speeds, heat vision, flying... Current Juggs, Superman Wins. Classic jugs.. Superman can't hurt him. It would be a tie. In any case superman is in a no lose situation.
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Wolverine also has the backing of a team to help distract Juggs most of the time.
Superman without speed is in a loosing battle here as he won't be able to get close to Juggs he may still be agile but trying to grab a helmet yank it off is something really hard to do unless the guy is standing still or being distracted.
Supes will get the beat down of his life once Juggs gets a hold of him.
But see that where your wrong, you think thats an advantage when its not, Superman has to get his Helmet off first, thats going to be a problem in itself, and if you think Juggs is just gonna stand there and let him then you got some major issues, On top of that, Juggernaut, with common knowledge of superman, knows he has T-vo and that he will be going for his helmet. Think about it.
Superman has to get close to him, nobody wants to be close to the Juggernaut, Thor needed odins help to escape his grip, Juggernaut is the Same Guy that Downs Thing in 2 or 3 punches. Whips the floor with the X-men in one panel, punched Stranger in the nose, and so much more.
Even with all this, this fight is still 50/50, because supes does have flight, and he is still fairly agile and I do believe he could get his helmet off a few times.
Unless Juggernaut actually is running for him in which case Superman probably couldn't stop him, then he's not going to "overpower" Superman. Juggernaut's strength level isn't what Superman's is, his durability is off the charts though, and he is unstoppable when gaining forward momentum. It's not that big of a stretch to consider the fact that Superman can get Juggernaut's helmet off. He still does have the advantage of flight. Besides, "no superspeed" is kind of a loose term to use. Under the speed of an airplane??? Under the speed of sound??? When was the last time a PERSON could fly at superHUMAN speeds??? However, once he has his helmet off of him, it's T-Vo time. Ask Dominus what he thought of T-Vo, he didn't seem to like it too much.
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