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TOA vs PRESENCE

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The Presence is a fictional comic book representation of the Abrahamic God created by Grant Morrison for the DC Universe. It is never seen or heard "on screen," but its existence and influence is felt and described by the characters within the comics (e.g. by the angel Zauriel in the JLA comics).

Who is TOA i doubt he's the God that DC's is instead i'm seen him on panel depicted as Stan Lee or another writer of some sort. please post the images of this. I am certain that the TOA is not the God displayed in christianity unless perhaps there's a chapter on the living tirbunal i haven't seen in the bible??

I want proof on panel not theory!!

Mar 13th, 2007 05:59 AM

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theres churches in marvel so i think the christianity god may exist in marvel

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From wikipedia

The Presence is a fictional comic book representation of the Abrahamic God created by Grant Morrison for the DC Universe. It is never seen or heard "on screen," but its existence and influence is felt and described by the characters within the comics (e.g. by the angel Zauriel in the JLA comics).

Who is TOA i doubt he's the God that DC's is instead i'm seen him on panel depicted as Stan Lee or another writer of some sort. please post the images of this. I am certain that the TOA is not the God displayed in christianity unless perhaps there's a chapter on the living tirbunal i haven't seen in the bible??

I want proof on panel not theory!!

We have concluded that DC's God is Equal to marvel's God. That is all. And this has been done to death in so many differnt ways.

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Re: TOA vs PRESENCE

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From wikipedia

The Presence is a fictional comic book representation of the Abrahamic God created by Grant Morrison for the DC Universe. It is never seen or heard "on screen," but its existence and influence is felt and described by the characters within the comics (e.g. by the angel Zauriel in the JLA comics).

Who is TOA i doubt he's the God that DC's is instead i'm seen him on panel depicted as Stan Lee or another writer of some sort. please post the images of this. I am certain that the TOA is not the God displayed in christianity unless perhaps there's a chapter on the living tirbunal i haven't seen in the bible??

I want proof on panel not theory!!

Guy is a Lutheran/Christian. TOAA=Presence. God=God

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absence>presence, but the pressence was never late for school

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fair enough, I'm not debating that there not euqal, but who is the TOA??

is he on panel

Mar 13th, 2007 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by lionking
fair enough, I'm not debating that there not euqal, but who is the TOA??

is he on panel

IMO, TOAA=God. Presence=God. They equal. There is a comic(FF), I believe that shows Lee and Kirby

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There is a picture shown the TOAA to be jack Kirby and again Presence=TOAA

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We have concluded that DC's God is Equal to marvel's God. That is all. And this has been done to death in so many differnt ways.

Indeed.

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There is a picture shown the TOAA to be jack Kirby and again Presence=TOAA

True.

However, as Kirby alluded to in the comic, it's merely how they percieved the almighty to be. It's not neccisarily how he actually looks.

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We have concluded that DC's God is Equal to marvel's God. That is all. And this has been done to death in so many differnt ways.

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Mar 14th, 2007 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Utrigita
There is a picture shown the TOAA to be jack Kirby and again Presence=TOAA

Not quite.

There are scans depicting whom the F4 viewed as God.

God, (whom was never named, but is presumed to be Jack Kirby), took orders via telephone from his "Collaborator", whom was never seen, but is presumably Stan Lee/TOAA.

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So in Marvel,

Stan Lee = The Collaborator/TOAA (presumably)

Jack Kirby (presumably) = God

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Originally posted by Galan007
Not quite.

There are scans depicting whom the F4 viewed as God.

God, (whom was never named, but is presumed to be Jack Kirby), took orders via telephone from his "collaborator", whom was never seen, but is presumably Stan Lee.

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But isnt the one above all supose to be over God's?

Mar 14th, 2007 03:22 PM

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But isnt the one above all supose to be over God's?

TOAA was never seen, so who knows whom was "Collaborating" with God?

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Mar 14th, 2007 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by Galan007
TOAA was never seen, so who knows whom was "Collaborating" with God?

Hm, some see the One-Above-All as the entire staff, since they are the creators.

Mar 14th, 2007 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Hm, some see the One-Above-All as the entire staff, since they are the creators.

It very well could be.

Like I said before, who knows?

TOAA was never seen, so it's all speculation as to whom God was collaborating with.

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