im just wondering if hulk shouldnt be up there with the likes of surfer, thanos, drax (original) and the likes.
reasons i think hulk should be up there with the top tier characters.
Super Skrull is a cosmic character but all he's got going for him is the combined powers of the FF, with out prep i dont think the FF could take on many cosmic level threats could they? Hulk in a really pissed off mood could probably take out the FF, i mean he took out all the inhuman's till black bolt used his whisper.
Hulk is a planet buster, did he or did he not smash a meteor twice the size of earth with ONE PUNCH, who else is a planet buster, let see thanos, drax, champion of the universe (with gem) Another strengh feat is that hulk once dented ultron a robot of pure adimantium in secret wars.
Surfer is durable enough to take a blast from korvac that can destroy a planet, of course we know that he can destroy planets using his cosmic power, surfer i mean. Hasnt hulk shown uber high levels of durability in the past, didnt he become more durable then adimantium once when dealing with the meastros creations, even thanos was hurt when wolverine put his claws through him, and why should it be PIS, is adimantium like thee one of thee most durable metals in the MU, not saying that thanos or surfer could not destroy it using other powers but im talking about durability feats.
Surfer is a very TP resistent character from what ive heard, isnt Hulk extremly resistent as well, he's taken on the leader, and even combined mines and overcome them, if professor X was not depowered would he be able to passify the hulk, only a few people have been able to do that including sentry.
Its true what they say that superman can kick hulks butt at normal levels but does anyone really think that if hulk was pissed enough he couldnt bust supermans butt.
Nope, everybody in space can move ahellavalot faster than most things on Earth, he wouldn't be able to put his hands on alot of them if they really didn't want him to (Surfer, Runner, Superman etc.) and he's simply not versatile enough.
Also, don't degrade the Surfer. He's destroyed a solar system pre-upgrade, and has chilled in super nova's like they weren't a thing. The hulk doesn't belong in Marvel's cosmics.
yeah he also got controlled by a slug, is gonna have to fight black panther soon wow im so scared of the surfer, nobody is degrading him thanks. If he can destroy a solar system he should have destroyed thanos a long time ago
Neither won. The Surfer ceased hostilities and was then cheapshotted, stomped on, and was not even knocked out. The Surfer then freed all the gladiators.
Before the Surfer ceased hostilities, though, he was owning the Hulk and several other Gladiators simultaneously.
Umm... what does the F4 have to do with anything? You just said without prep, they probably couldn't take out many cosmic beings, and now you're using it as an excuse for Hulk being cosmic?
I don't get it...
Hulk was shot out of a canon when he destroyed this asteroid... how soon we forget...
It wasn't strength, it was moreso duribility.
Wasn't the reason secondary adamantium was introduced, was because of Hulk?
The shit Thor was smashing hundreds of in the series where Ultron was stealing DNA to make the ultimate guy.
Hulk more durible than adamantium? Not even going to touch this, just point and laugh at it.
You know how many people are rresistent to telepathy? Why not just make Rogue a cosmic level now too?
The difference is, that Surfer took an attack from Moondragon with the Gem, and was only put down on his board for a second or two, and got right back up.
The same attack from Moondragon earlier, put Prof X in a coma.
Surfer's resistence>>>>>>>>>>>> etc, X's resistence.
Don't compare them.
No, Hulk can be as mad as he wants, and he still gets his ass tooled by Supes. It's called versitility... something Hulk will never achieve.
Hulk isn't cosmic, because like V said, cosmic revolves around space.
And hell, the reason you put up, still don't do it either.
You tried to get him on, f*ck if I know who's level, and he isn't.
Not Thanos, not Surfer, not Superman, etc, he's not cosmic, and he's not on a cosmic level.
i can compare him to surfer and thanos if you dont like it leave nobody makes you come to this thread, he should be more durable then thanos during certain pissed of moments and as strong.
I don't have to leave, nor do I feel like it.
Also, the reason why you shouldn't compare him, is because they aren't comparable.
As durible? Never! He'd be incredibly hard pressed to get near Surfer's level, let alone Thanos.
I really don't care about him being as strong, because no matter what I say, people will always say he is the strongest.
Your logic should have been switched around though, is what I'll say.
He is/never is as durible as Thanos. Dumb to say so.
Unless of course (yes), you have him taking attacks by Odin, and not moving.
Or, taking an attack by Surfer to no effect (Hulk has been KOed by a blast from Surfer, and that was him not even really trying).
Or, Tyrant.
Etc.