You my friend have leaned on your own understanding, and in turn got it wrong. The bible says that you should "not" have sex with your spouse to the point of saturation, you should meditate on the lord more than you are given to have sex.... why? Because you defile your relationship with not just your spouse, but with God as well, and in doing so you open the door for lust to creep into your beautiful camp, sometimes abstinence is the best policy even in marriage. When the doorway to lust is opened in your relationship, oftentimes it lures strangers into it as well.
Going off topic a little... most women are the more sexual of the two, and not to seem sexist, but it is the mans job to get control of himself, and not give in to the temptation of sleeping with is wife seven days per week.... men should try their best to go without, and will therefore be more appreciated, because a woman can say that she wants to have sex, but often when she gets what she wants... well let's just say that the thrill is gone.
You should reread the bible and if you are confused about something, you should bring it up with someone that knows better.
The bible also clearly states that a whore can be both a man or a women.... it says that a whore is a person that has left their first estate for the notion of something better. This could also be an organization IE a church that has fallen away from it's first love, for the notion or idea of something better this is what the bible considers to be a whore.
Choose your words carefully, because sometimes ignorance is not bliss.
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That first part is right about giving yourselves to each other and not withholding out of spite or to accomplish something.
But the second part is horsecrap. The bible is clear in many places that a man shouldn't have an affair/commit adultery. If he does, it's sin and his fault. "Beware the adulterous woman, do not go into her house. That way leads to death." (paraprahsed)
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Yeah. And vice-versa.
It's a whole concept about being "one flesh" that isn't apparent in secular marriages.
Your finances, your home, your descisions, your bodies,...you are one. You don't have ownership over yourself anymore, you joined with another person. (and they don't have ownership overthemselves anymore)
Note: if the woman is sick or tired or has a headache or whatever, that's understandable. I'm not talking about that.
But if she's good, and he's good, and he wants to have sex, it's her place to do it.
Same thing, if the guy came home from a long day at work and is tired and the wife wants it (or maybe oral sex, something that women love as well)...well, the guy better get himself cleaned up and ready to go.
Unless, as stated by the first posters quote, it's mutually agreed upon for a time to get closer to God. O Rly?
We believe in the Bible, in God the Father and Creator, in Jesus His Son the saviour, and in the Holy Spirit. Everything we believe comes straight from scripture.
Probably a convo for PM or the religion forum, but why do you say that?
I guess sith does just refer to spite, though he does say this part is correct. again, why I asked for a clarification before saying he is proposing rape
so, if the only reason a woman has for not wanting sex is that she, lets say, is pissed of at her husband and doesn't want to out of spite, she HAS to?
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Well, yes and no.
I'm referring to spite, but to me it's spite if the woman is feeling okay (not sick or headache or anything), has nothing pressing to do and is just hanging around the house that night, and the husband wants to have sex and she says no.
She needs to GET herself in the mood. It's part of being a wife.
Note: it is the wise husband who is romantic enough to make dinner, bring flowers, give a massage or a bath, engage in foreplay, etc... to make his wife more open to having sex.
But even if he doesn't, if she can and won't, that's spite.
Yeah that's pretty damned creepy. However, I would point it seems to be a result of that manner of "marriage contract" not a general rule for interaction between men a women (voluntary contracts like that do exist, many of them even more explicitly in favor of one side). But it's possible I'm looking for positive in what's written there, if it supposed to mean that a woman (or man) must be totally subservient in order to be a good spouse it's pretty sick.
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Ridiculous. Why is only the desire to have sex, but not the wish not to have it at the time to be considered under your idiotic rules?
Did you somehow not think that one through at all?
What if your wife wanted to shit in your mouth, but you didn't. Whose "want" wins? And why? Randomly, or does God have exact rules written down somewhere.
****, you fundies are so delusionally insane and stupid, I can't get over it.
I would think, in terms of Christian theology, that Rape should be seen as one of the worse forms of assault. In the sense that it totally ignores rules on marriage and defies the apparent design of male/female unity...
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