I would like to see Demitris actual feats, in all the threads i have seen him in or debated in he either wins because hes a darkstalker or because of a variety of assumed abilities. If Kain gets past round 1, I dont think Round 2 has anything that can beat him.
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He really can't. Kain has no means of harming either one of them, too slow, too weak, powers too featless and gameplay exclusive. Every other person in this thread rapes Kain.
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Kain is faster than both physically or through teleportation and can kill either with a soul reaping strike or all 3 of them with blood shower. Their a lower tier than Kain easily, I just put them in the thread because I recently played GoW 3 for Kratos and Ganon has some support but Demitri is my only interest in round 1.
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Really wish the trolling rule was enforced around here. You know damn well Kain can't so much as break either of their skin, let alone steal their souls. You know he's slower, and you use gameplay "feats" all damn day while ignoring actual feats from other characters.
Kratos has resisted soul theft by Hades, what's Kain got? Nothing. Ganondorf can react to strikes so much quicker than Kain's it's sad, jump over arrows shot at him, and is too durable for Kain to harm.
Kain's blood shower doesn't work here because he can't get the blood out of them, Ganon can even assume a form that has no blood if he feels like it, but he doesn't need to.
Congrats on spiting Kain.
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Indeed. No, I know damn well that Kain can easily break Ganons skin and does not have to break "skin" to take souls, he only has to strike them. No, I have seen him move faster than both.
Ive actually played it, Hades uses a method of soul taking that is completly different to Kains, Kains cannot be resisted in the same way. No he cant, Ganondorfs never done so.....Kains too fast for him.
Cant get the blood out of them? they have no resistance to the spell, their easy game for it. The act of having your blood spraying throughout your body, trying to get to Kain would kill either of them as well. If its not getting to Kain then all Kain loses is the power to gain strength from them. Their hearts would still burst from the seizure of all their blood going berserk.
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Bt, you can't call anything on what Ganondorf can or can't do, you don't even play the series. Ganondorf has some of the best speed feats in Hyrule. All recent encounters with him, he's had periods where he's completely untouchable unless something else distracts him. Reflexes that make lightning look like molasses.
Teamed up with Kratos and Demitri, there really is no opening at all for Kain to take advantage of.
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Curious, because I recall a cutscene whereign Ganondorf crosses a room before anyone inside it even knows he's moved, and the reaver does need to harm them to take souls, this was proven by BloodRain, IIRC. They also need to be weakened.
You claim Kain's faster, but you have no evidence. GJ.
Even if it couldn't be resisted in the same way, the reaver only kills weakened opponents and needs to harm it's target. Can't do.
They're too durable, the blood wouldn't even leave their viens, their hearts pump blood harder than Kain can try to steal it, ect, there's simply no way this could work. It's like trying to reverse the flow of Niagra Falls with a bucket, and not even being able to get at the water.
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Demitri destroys Kain by himself. 'Seriously doubt Kain can beat the version of Pyron Demitri fought and Demitri did it a 80% of his actual power.
Demitri was hit wit an attack so hard he got knocked into another dimension. The attack is not designed to remove people from dimensional plains but it was so powerful that it did. Not to mention he has absorbed Pyron already. Kain stands no chance.
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Show me. This was not proven, it was proven by me however and by Kain himself that all he needs to do is strike and it takes souls, the idea of having to pierce them is redundant and is not said anywhere or implied.
No evidence? I have the moebius scene and dimentional teleport in the other thread proving it. What do you have?
False.
Durability has what impact on the spell? Also you cannot prove any of these things, their blood would be easy game and blood would not constrict itself, it would be flowing through their bodies and would kill them instantly. Your assertion is that the spell is affected by durability and that all their internal organs are vastly more durable than humans, prove this.
Your the one I wanted to argue with about Demitri, you know about him. What are his current feats, what are the specifics of the Pyron fight?
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You never proved that at all. You claimed it, it was proven otherwise, you ignored that.
The moebius scene is pathetic, Ganon's scene where he kills the sage is much quicker. Dimensional teleport, hey look, a gameplay ability, guess this means Ganondorf gets to react to sword strikes in less than 0.03 seconds, casually block arrows, and play catch with lightning.
You need to damage a body to get the blood out, it's naturally designed to keep blood in, the spell cannot do so.
QFT.
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It cant be proven otherwise, I had proven it and nobody had evidence to suggest otherwise.
Oh so he kills Sages who were defenceless, how is that speed exactly? I dont think he even moves as far as Kain in that scene. A gameplay ability is different to a gameplay mechanic, nice try though. Kain would have percieved and reacted to Ganon who would only see Kain as a blur at that point. That point would be his death.
You need to damage a body? where are you getting this from? this is a sorcerous spell were talking about, not a physical attack. You do realise this right?
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Actually, all evidence says your wrong, like Kain needing to impale the Hylden Lord, for example?
He moves farther, and before they even realise he's moved he's killed one of them.
Those are all gameplay abilities, sorry boyo. Either accept all gameplay abilities, or none. No favouritism.
Which gives Kain even less chance than before against Ganon who's magic resistance is blatantly off the charts and well above anything that can be found in LoK.
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