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Captain Atom and Hal Jordan vs. Firestorm and Martian Manhunter

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Jun 1st, 2010 08:46 PM

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Team 1 has more power, but team 2 has MM's uber TP.

I'll side with TP.

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Jun 1st, 2010 08:55 PM

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Team 1 has more power, but team 2 has MM's uber TP.

I'll side with TP.

But GL shields can block TP.

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current GL shields have shown that ability?

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Jun 1st, 2010 08:59 PM

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current GL shields have shown that ability?

Indeed. It's not automatic, but an experienced GL can do it. It's been done on Hector Hammond and Thundermind/APP (I can't remember exactly).

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Indeed. It's not automatic, but an experienced GL can do it. It's been done on Hector Hammond and Thundermind/APP (I can't remember exactly).

Nothing short of automatic would be quick enough, imo.

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Nothing short of automatic would be quick enough, imo.

It's not in-character for J'onn to immediately go for the TP takedown either. None of these characters are especially bloody-thirsty or known for taking down enemies hard and fast.

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It's not in-character for J'onn to immediately go for the TP takedown either. None of these characters are especially bloody-thirsty or known for taking down enemies hard and fast.

For the sake of the plot, J'onn isn't likely going to shut down the antagonist's mind right from the get-go. It's the same reason Flash doesn't just automatically steal the speed of every opponent.

In a forum setting, however, it IS something they could/would do.

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For the sake of the plot, J'onn isn't likely going to shut down the antagonist's mind right from the get-go. It's the same reason Flash doesn't just automatically steal the speed of every opponent.

In a forum setting, however, it IS something they could/would do.

No unless the OP says so.... mad

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No unless the OP says so....

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Just going by this:

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It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed. It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

J'onn has basic knowledge of his opponents. He is in a setting where using his abilities as wisely as possible is standard procedure. He has TP.

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For the sake of the plot, J'onn isn't likely going to shut down the antagonist's mind right from the get-go. It's the same reason Flash doesn't just automatically steal the speed of every opponent.

In a forum setting, however, it IS something they could/would do.

This doesn't guarantee J'onn a win either since Hal can erect those shields at the speed of his thoughts. He's facing a character he knows well; why wouldn't block off TP intrusion immediately at the start? It's not in-character for J'onn to do it right away. It doesn't mean that he wouldn't try to use it in a forum battle: the Flash may not speed-blitz every opponent, but he does speed-blitz as part of his character.

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gotta go with team 1 cause of Hal.

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This doesn't guarantee J'onn a win either since Hal can erect those shields at the speed of his thoughts. He's facing a character he knows well; why wouldn't block off TP intrusion immediately at the start? It's not in-character for J'onn to do it right away. It doesn't mean that he wouldn't try to use it in a forum battle: the Flash may not speed-blitz every opponent, but he does speed-blitz as part of his character.

So you're saying it would be in character for Hal to erect a TP-shield right from the start, but it would not be in character for J'onn to use TP right from the start?

Hm.

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Team 1 has more power, but team 2 has MM's uber TP.

I'll side with TP.

and atom can't absorb it

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So you're saying it would be in character for Hal to erect a TP-shield right from the start, but it would not be in character for J'onn to use TP right from the start?

Hm.

I'm pointing out that if we accept the whole "use powers to full capacity" then Hal is as likely to immediately protect himself from TP as J'onn is to go for an instantaneous incapacitation via TP. They both know their opponent's capabilities very well. It doesn't require a special shield distinct from their usual plasma shields to do it either, so he could still attack while being protected.

I think J'onn's telepathy will be less useful than his invisibility, phasing and shapeshifting. And that's assuming J'onn is fighting Hal in the first place instead of CA.

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Jun 2nd, 2010 06:07 AM

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Hal will most likely erect defenses against Jonnz tp from the get go.

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team 1..Atom beat Firestorm..Hal can beat anyone..

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Team 2.

Jonn has phased through Hals constructs before, he's quicker of the bat with a mindrape, and more then capable of overloading Atom with mental energy. Firestorm can hold off either opponent while Jonn deals with his.

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