Yes. I think it's one of the forum rules too. What if and alt reality versions of characters aren't valid in VS threads. Unless that character is unique to the multiverse (Immortus, the Living Tribunal, etc..).
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Blood and Thunder Thor with the power gem gave Thanos fits and stalemated him for most of that fight. I doubt regular Thor without the power gem is going to give Thanos a run for his money more than any other high herald.
Can you give an approximation, as to how much of the Power Gem that Thor was using? Can you say for sure that when they were busting each other up that Thor was actually tapping the Gem? I mean look at his state of mind, then factor in that never once was the Gem or Gems used at peak efficiency without knowing how to use them.
It was stated in the comic that Thor was subconsciously tapping into the power gem and growing stronger by the second. Doctor Strange made some comments too on how Thor (fueled by his rage and the PG) would gain enough power to destroy Asgard and eventually the Universe.
When in the comic did it state this? Was it after Thor was locked down in a force cube? Context is key here, because Thanos was unlikely able to tkae hits from the Champion sporting the same Gem, and relied on shields rather than take direct hits from him. You see what I mean?
It was stated after Thanos trapped Thor. Why would Thor only subconsciously tap into the PG after being force blocked? That makes no sense. It's not like Thor made the conscious choice to tap into the PG after being trapped, it was subconscious after all.
In the Champion fight it's not that he couldn't take hits from Champion, more like he didn't want to because his goal wasn't to engage in a fist fight. His goal was to take the PG, which is what he did. You're right, context is important here.
As far as the Champion fight is concerned, maybe you should go back and re-read it, because I saw something different.
Drax was tapping the Gem on a subconscious level and look what happened to him. My question is can you completely rule out that Thor may have been fighting Thanos under his own power before being force blocked? If not can you say for certain how much of a percentage that he was tapping it? All we know for certain is that Thor did not know how to use the Gem on the level that Adam Warlock would know how to. On panel evidence would suggests that Thor wasn't tapping the Gem to any great degree, because he just got his hands on it, was in a feral state of mind, and that it took Titania lots of time to learn to tap the Gem even while being tutored in its usage.
Are you really suggesting that the whole time Thor had the power gem in BT, he wasn't tapping into its power at all? Do you have any evidence at all to even support this?
I have as much evidence to suggest that he wasn't than anyone has in suggesting that he was. What on panel during that battle, did he do that he was incapable of doing without the Gem? He tore up things which he could do without it right?
What i am suggesting is that on panel it said that Thor was only tapping the Gem on a subconscious level, This implies that he was inept at its usage, and was in no way capable of using it on the level that Warlock would be able to.
Ask yourself this question. If Warlock was switched out for Thor, and fought Thanos with the Gem, how do you see the fight going? Just remember that the Gem allows the wielder to possess infinite strength, durability, and any power that they can use would be amplified to an infinite degree. Does that seem to be the level on which Thor was operating at?
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