It's kind of weird, because I thought that Thanos and not a Thanosi fought Thor for the Chalice, and what we saw at the end of that conflict was an unconscious Thanos lying on the ground scorched but not dead, because at that period in time, Thanos was immune to death due to Death's will for him.
Before Thanos fought Thor for the Chalice, he fought Thor during Blood and Thunder, where we saw him subdue Thor with a force block, and then went on to be physically over matched by Odin, as we see him later tell a drugged Odin that he had defeated him in their last encounter. I would like to see where it was proven that Thanos was a Thanosi when he was defeated by Thor while being amplified by mystic armor. I for one do not believe that it was a Thanosi by word alone, when the continuity leads the reader to believe that it was actually the real Thanos.
OR The being that Odin smoked, was actually just a Thanosi as well.
With the Chalice Thanos wins this while without, he is physically over matched.
I don't get how you can only come to those conclusions.
Thanos implanted the Thanosi with memories of himself, so they should know he fought Odin.
Thanos from Blood and Thunder wanted to help, while Thanos from the Thor run wanted to destroy the universe.
It's confirmed in Infinity Abyss that the Thanos from the Thor run was a clone. And Thor said he died as well.
Also, Thanos is not physically fighting Hulk, and the Thanos with the Chalice of Ruins was fighting Thor with the belt of strength wrapped around everything, and armor enhanced by a sizable portion of Odin force... and Thanos was trying to destroy the universe at the same time. Focus all that power of Hulk alone? Ha.
It was intended to be the real deal but it was retconned/revealed to be a clone. IIRC Starlin disliked that the character went back to Universal annihilation.
I don't have the comic in front of me but I'm pretty certain that Odin was significantly weakened when he empowered that armor. He had fought Seth, been tortured by the Dark Gods, and IIRC poisoned by Thanos' spy. I'd have to check but I'm pretty sure the Odin sleep was also near.
Anyways, my point is that Odin was in horrible shape, and didn't even tap into Asgard/Asgardians so it couldn't have been a sizable portion of the Odin Force. Relative to a rested Odin.
Pretty sure Thanos turned his focus on Thor in the end as well and started unleashing on him.
I realize. But what he had, he put pretty much everything into the weapons iirc.
Odin might have been weakened, but quite a bit of his might backed by the Belt of Strength is nothing to scoff at.
If his power was relative to his current stature too, then I'm not too sure he'd be taking supposed universe destroying attacks... mind you what he empowered was forged to be durable, but still.
Odin lent Thor what he could spare of the Odin Force at the time if memory serves correct. It's kind of dicey to attempt to quantify how much force an Odin Force could force if an Odin Force could force force, though.
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