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Reasons why a non-Islamist terrorist would attack America?
Nothing against Muslims, but are there any other motivations by besides meddling in Middle Eastern affairs (through support Israel and Saudi Arabia and the dictatorship we supported in Iran) that would cause one to maliciously attack the United States?
For instance, Patrice Lamumba. The entire crisis in Africa can be attributed to the US ordering his death, leaving Zaire without a leader to stabilize it. that would cause Anti-American views.
Bigger question is what haven't we done. I can't believe people still wonder why half the world hates the US.
Also, try taking a look at domestic terrorism carried out by Americans - things like bombings of government buildings, abortion clinic bombings (often done by Christian extremists), and so on. Events like that are way more common than someone from another country attacking like that.
how had Tim mcveigh not been mentioned yet... or the unibomber...?
the vast majority of domestic terrorist activity comes from environmental groups. I had a prof whose friend did work with rats, an environmental group (this is in the uk) sent his daughter a letter bomb full of aids infected needles.
I'm not sure I understand, is the point to think of reasons why middle easterners may be motivated outside of jihad, or just why people in general
may attack the us?
There was also an environmental terror group that burned a number of car dealerships a few years ago as well as burning down some high-dollar homes. The irony was that the homes were high-efficiency green developments. Terrorists suck donkey balls.
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I'm afraid I was not specific. I did not bring up domestic terrorists and ecoterrorists as their terrorism is supposed to provoke "improvements" within US societal structure.
I need a motivation that would want a terrorist to wipe the US and it's innocent citizens, anything having to do with the US off the face of the Earth, which is why I am requesting info about international terrorist groups
A friend of mine briefly worked for a research lab that worked with mice and rats. They did a heavy background check and apparently any sort of association with PETA was an automatic "not a chance in hell".
All terrorism is supposed to provoke improvements in the target society. There aren't really evil brown people thousands of miles who want to kill Americans for no reason. Generally terrorism from the Middle East targeted at American is done either to push America into leaving the area or punish it for more esoteric forms of immorality.
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Are you asking for real groups? Or just hypothetical?
Because I could envision an apocalyptic group that seeks to destroy the United States and thus ruin the world economy as a means of bringing some kind of global societal collapse.
But as Sym said, terrorists aren't out to kill Americans for the sake of killing Americans, they just think that killing Americans is the best way of attaining their goals.
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alright, you are probably more looking for a fictional group then, not because nobody has these types of grievances with America, but that most terrorism is focused on very local issues. Most terrorists are "home grown", and it is just more difficult to get people to fight against more abstract things, like "the great satan America", versus "the-local-ruler-who-oppresses-me".
The question then, as I see it, is why do these groups attack America? Al Qaeda does it for nominally spiritual reasons, they literally believe their god will allow them to not only kill Americans, but threaten America's existence. However, even though this is the case, they still use local conflicts as recruiting tools and as justification.
So, you already mentioned African groups, sure, or any nation in Latin or South America (Haiti springs to mind instantly), but you might have to come up with some motivation for these terrorists that allows them to actually believe they can destroy America.
anti-American terrorism wasn't popular in Afghanistan right after the defeat of the Soviets. Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri were unpopular because they wanted global jihad. It must have meant something to them, at least.
Most of Al Qaeda's motivation really seems to stem from being slighted by the U.S., with them eventually wrapping their hatred in the standard "great satan" ideology. We pitted them against the Soviets as we saw fit after then invasion, then once things were over we, namely the CIA, left them and pretended like we no longer knew who they were. We used them and tossed them aside like a cheap whore, which they found none too pleasing.
Honestly, even when you look a number of situations in which war is formally declared the reasoning isn't much sounder than that, but the winners write the histories. Look no further than the Revolutionary War. The weathly were tired of Britain ruling over them and taxing them more heavily than they thought appropriate. The poor would see almost no difference in living conditions under either side but were incited into seeing the fight as worthwhile so war it is. For all intents and purposes the original attacks by the patriots of the U.S. were terrorist actions against British troops, but we won the war so we were justified in the end, no? That's how it works.
Yes, I'm oversimplifying the conflict a bit, but the situations are similar looking at them from an objective point of view and showing no bias towards one group or the other being right from the outset.
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