TheGodKiller02
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India recriminalizes homosexuality
Don't know if this thread has been done already, but in recent times the Indian Supreme Court took a step back in time and and overruled the Delhi High Court's 5-year old verdict which decriminalized homosexuality.
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quote: In a shocking decision, the Indian Supreme Court has reversed the July 2009 ruling of the Delhi High Court decriminalizing gay sex between consenting adults. In doing so, the Indian Supreme Court has re-criminalized gay sex in India, rendering almost 20 percent of the global LGBT population illegal.
Overturning a High Court decision, the Indian Supreme Court upheld Indian Penal Code 377, an archaic and barbaric law that criminalizes "homosexual" acts:
377. Unnatural offenses -- Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine.
Western media and LGBT organizations are likely to demonize India and Indians after this ruling, which does not make life easier for Indians who are gay and lesbian abroad, and conveniently casts the West as an arbiter of freedom. Anthopologist Akshaye Khanna articulates this quite well:
We are seeing, in several parts of the world, a cynical appropriation of the discourse of sexual rights and sexuality by right-wing and reactionary agendas. In Western Europe, North America and Israel, we see the phenomenon of 'homonationalism', where LGBT discourse is being used in deeply racist -- usually Islamophobic -- groups. In East Africa, the question of sexuality has come to be the central question in discourse about the nation -- where notions of 'Africanness' have come to be tied to the position on homosexuality. This centering of the question of sexuality is always a way of diverting attention from political and economic questions relating to the control over natural resources, or instances of corruption.
While we mourn the ruling, let's not forget that Indian Penal Code 377 is a relic of British rule and colonialism. The Supreme Court ruling is just a reminder that the Indian people cannot rely on courts to strike down an injustice rooted in colonial oppression, and that colonial ideas remain ingrained in a so-called post-colonial country.
However, colonial-era law or not, there is no excuse for this decision from the Indian Supreme Court, which should have outlawed discrimination, instead of punting the question of sodomy to the Indian parliament. Thus far, the Indian parliament has remained non-commital on the issue, sparking more fear and outrage across the country.
While lawyers are seeking another review by the Supreme Court, reports are slowly coming in on how this impacts Indians who are openly gay, lesbian or bisexual in India:
There have been arguments that upholding article 377 will lead to further alienation of LGBT persons and groups, and cause a severe setback to HIV/AIDS prevention efforts, especially among men who have sex with men (MSM). Gay rights NGO Naz Foundation, which filed the petition to decriminalise gay sex with the Delhi High Court, says this law has been used to blackmail and perpetuate violence against sexual minorities.
Now that being gay is illegal in India, perhaps the U.S. should stop detaining gay, Indian asylum seekers such as Kumar, and work to parole them. If you already live in the U.S. and fear for your life as an LGBT person in India, please see a competent immigration attorney or contact Immigration Equality in the U.S. For asylum cases already adjudicated or under adjudication, please see a legal professional about filing a motion to reopen and/or changed country conditions reports.
It appears that many Indians are outraged by the ruling, but also keeping it in perspective. Section 377 has rarely been used to criminalize gay persons in India but there are many enforced laws on the books that cause less national and international outrage, such as Karnataka Police Acts, which criminalizes all hijras in the state. Perhaps, our energies here are better spent taking outrage and pouring it into fighting the threats and daily assaults against the Indian people that are far more real and tangible than this poor Supreme Court decision.
I believe this is a set-back for democracy in India. But I also know that the Indian people, irrespective of their sexuality, are joining hands to protest this ruling. Sometimes, a defeat is vital and necessary for social change, and to ultimately pave the way to victory.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/prern..._b_4425457.html
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Jan 20th, 2014 10:08 AM
Shakyamunison
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Homophobia seems to be on the rise in the world.
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Jan 20th, 2014 05:44 PM
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Jan 20th, 2014 06:21 PM
Firefly218
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Why do people care? I just don't understand.
There are so many more important issues to worry about.
Jan 20th, 2014 07:03 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Why do people care? I just don't understand.
There are so many more important issues to worry about.
In a forum where the ones in power are wrong it's dangerous to be right.
Jan 20th, 2014 07:07 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Astner
In a forum where the ones in power are wrong it's dangerous to be right.
What forum are you talking about?
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Jan 20th, 2014 07:10 PM
dadudemon
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My hope is that, one day, we can make babies completely external of a woman.
Then, a country of nothing but homosexuals could be created and all homosexuals would go there (and bis if they want). Education and social infrastructure in that country would be among the best in the, imo.
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Jan 20th, 2014 07:21 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
My hope is that, one day, we can make babies completely external of a woman.
Then, a country of nothing but homosexuals could be created and all homosexuals would go there (and bis if they want). Education and social infrastructure in that country would be among the best in the, imo.
Would you then also want a separate nation for black people?
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Jan 20th, 2014 07:27 PM
Firefly218
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Would you then also want a separate nation for black people?
Or highschool dropouts?
Jan 20th, 2014 07:33 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
Or highschool dropouts?
We already have that. Its called the USA. jk
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Jan 20th, 2014 07:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We already have that. Its called the USA. jk
How dare you insult this perfect country!
Jan 20th, 2014 07:38 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Firefly218
How dare you insult this perfect country!
Should I expect a drone soon?
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Jan 20th, 2014 07:48 PM
TheGodKiller02
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Colossus-Big C should shift to India or China for now.
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Jan 20th, 2014 07:55 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Should I expect a drone soon?
Jan 20th, 2014 07:58 PM
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dadudeman's homophobia is thinly veiled. The fashionably sensible Gaystapo will be around shortly to sort him out.
Also, I love that India is focusing its legislation on the epidemic of homosexuality instead of the massive gang rapes that take place there or the human rights denials of untouchables. Or the pollution of the Ganges, the rat temples, and the stampedes caused by cows allowed to run amok. India is still third world in many ways despite being a population hotspot.
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Jan 20th, 2014 08:18 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Would you then also want a separate nation for black people?
There is a whole continent for that.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stealth Moose
dadudeman's homophobia is thinly veiled. The fashionably sensible Gaystapo will be around shortly to sort him out.
I was thinking more like a utopia where homosexuals can life freely without fear of countries like India and all the Middle Eastern countries. It was an idea about a sanctuary, not a "lepers colony."
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Jan 20th, 2014 08:55 PM
Shakyamunison
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by dadudemon
There is a whole continent for that.
Monrovia?
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Jan 20th, 2014 08:57 PM
dadudemon
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Monrovia?
I was thinking Africa.
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Jan 20th, 2014 08:57 PM
Stealth Moose
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Separate but equal has bad connotations, dadudeman. Also, the idea that gays can't be in society is troubling. What next? Drawn borders based on political party?
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Jan 20th, 2014 09:01 PM
Cinemaholic
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Why can't people just be with who they want to be with?
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Jan 20th, 2014 09:12 PM
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