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Wakanda vs DC USA

Relations break down between Wakanda and the DC United States of America. The result is WAR.

The scenarios are:
1) DC USA forces invade Wakanda
2) Wakandan forces invade DC USA
3) Battle it out over neutral ground

Each side gets standard government & military forces and tech as depicted in their respective universes.

For superhumans/metahumans, each country can only call on those characters who are shown as regularly in service or hire of the governments and military eg. DC USA gets guys like Wraith and Suicide Squad, but they can't call up guys like Superman, Batman etc.

Version is up to you... Preboot, DCnu, President Luthor era USA etc.

Who wins???

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Aahhh DCU USA has a lot of metas on the payroll.

Aside from the affore me tioned Suicide Squad, there is the other branches of Task force X, the conglomerate, the metal men (depending on when in DCU history we take it from), the Doom patrol (also dependant on time in continuity, and the freedom fighters in some versions. Then there's Captain Atom, Major Force, General glory,...................... do I really need to go on? (Because I'm far from done).

Then we have to consider to we allow all the checkmate tech, the promethium armor and weapo s developed by Dayton Industries for the US (that was actually how Steve Dayton- ah la Mento got himself on the Doom Patrol and close to his love interest elastic Girl. By using his weight with the US military to get him added), the Omac's etc.

Not really seeing this as fair if we allow metas. With just tech and conventional forces yes but not metas

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Yeah.....i mean, Uncle Sam, amped by having DC USA united behind him (as seen during most wars with the US) will be pretty uber.


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I guess Wakanda has things like Panther God up its sleeve.

But maybe break it down - thoughts on who would win with or without the metahumans.

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Originally posted by beatboks
Aahhh DCU USA has a lot of metas on the payroll.

Aside from the affore me tioned Suicide Squad, there is the other branches of Task force X, the conglomerate, the metal men (depending on when in DCU history we take it from), the Doom patrol (also dependant on time in continuity, and the freedom fighters in some versions. Then there's Captain Atom, Major Force, General glory,...................... do I really need to go on? (Because I'm far from done).

Then we have to consider to we allow all the checkmate tech, the promethium armor and weapo s developed by Dayton Industries for the US (that was actually how Steve Dayton- ah la Mento got himself on the Doom Patrol and close to his love interest elastic Girl. By using his weight with the US military to get him added), the Omac's etc.

Not really seeing this as fair if we allow metas. With just tech and conventional forces yes but not metas


DCnU USA also has/had the JLA on payroll (I haven't kept up since the beginning) and Argus has collected a shitload of tech and magical artifacts in their variously colored rooms.


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Be a good fight


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Never understood y wakanda is deemed so powerful. Atlantis attilan latveria should steam roll


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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah.....i mean, Uncle Sam, amped by having DC USA united behind him (as seen during most wars with the US) will be pretty uber.


That would be scary.

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DC USA should have every scenario.


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Never understood y wakanda is deemed so powerful. Atlantis attilan latveria should steam roll
wakanda has actually beaten latveria before, their technology is far beyond Atlantis' and their defenses would repel them (let's not forget that they have dozens of weapons that are made specifically for fighting atlanteans), and panther and bolt are best friends, they wouldn't go to war.


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Never understood y wakanda is deemed so powerful. Atlantis attilan latveria should steam roll


Because of their tech.

Hudlin retconned Wakanda, making it some super-advanced country...


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Because of their tech.

Hudlin retconned Wakanda, making it some super-advanced country...


How uber is their tech?

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Basically always being leagues above other countries... that's their thing.

You'd need to read a few first issues of Hudlin's run. Cure for cancer and all that shit.


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Basically always being leagues above other countries... that's their thing.

You'd need to read a few first issues of Hudlin's run. Cure for cancer and all that shit.


Where do you think it ranks up there with ARGUS tech? ARGUS had the best tech in DCU, best mystical artifacts, etc... ARGUS was pretty stacked.

http://www.comicvine.com/the-red-room/4020-57897/

http://www.comicvine.com/the-black-room/4020-57899/

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DC USA can field an army of metas to take the field that would level Wakanda.


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I don't think the regular metas are necessary. A.R.G.U.S. and S.H.A.D.E. are the only ones that are needed. Two powerful organizations.

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You may be right.
Thing is, if you're not, DC USA has the option i suggested. Between both our scenarios, Wakanda is boned.


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