Which version of Jay? Some versions can speed steal, so he'd stomp Herc. Even without that he's still way way too fast for Herc to ever lay a hand on.
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Are you asking why the speed steal is a thing? Or why a character with high end super speed being unable to be tagged by someone who lacks high end super speed is a thing?
I mean I don't know, why is Thanos a thing? Why is Sentry a thing? Or anyone who is overpowered. Why is friggin Dragonball Z a thing?
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Not asking about speed steal. Just asking about your speed posts in general. U seem to have a preconceived notion that bricks cant handle speedsters. Which is false
With bricks we have two options: either they possess the speed necessary to react or they are so massively durable that they can endure whatever is thrown at them until they are able to react. Or they have some combination of both.
Now if you feel Hercules wins then you have to choose which of those options you feel are the reason he wins, and then explain why with some feats. Since notice I never actually said Jay wins if he lacks a speed steal, just that he won't get tagged. Unless Jay has feats of hurting Class 100's with his punches, but I'm not sure if he does.
As a side note: I just feel any victory that is achieved merely because your opponent didn't utilize their powers correctly is a pretty shallow victory. It's like if I beat a 4 yr. old kid in a foot race. Okay yes I technically won, but it's nothing to actually brag about.
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So you feel Hercules has consistently shown high end reflexes?
I guess I have to ask, is this how Thor also has "high end" reflexes too? Or Aquaman?
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It's a better argument so far then Teth's "consistent Flash like speed"
The only one there that's questionable on reflexes is Thor given writers have had him astonished by Wolverine's speed, having to resort to AOE to tag Quicksilver and Spiderman and etc. Whereas to my knowledge the other 2 haven't been shown to struggle against anyone because of speed.
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Im not discussing thor or authur. They arent in this thread. But yes Hercules has the reflexes to deal with Jay. And it's about as consistent as jay stealing speed and not getting hit in combat
Yeah, as the thread starter i just have to weigh in with,
Jay is not unhittable. Comics bear that out.
No speed stealing, as i wasnt thinking of it when i posted.
Herc is fast. Comics (and DS scans) bear that out, too.
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herc's fast the same way thor is fast. jay could def take some though. his battle against scythe was pretty f'n amazing. he can also take a bit of a beating himself--not like herc will one shot him. he's take shots from adam don't forget. but he would tire, and herc would tag him, even if it was a blind flail a la adam in the past. this is a close fight imo, and i like both and know both extremely well. i might give herc a slight majority here (assuming no speed steal), but i could see why someone would take jay, though i could never understand anyone claiming one or the other would own the other. that is simply not the case in this match.
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