O_o Does starting distance really matter here? They could be standing on the other side of the planet, and it's the same if they're right next to each other: Whoever can access their power first, wins.
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I'm not sure there are specific instances of Jenny pinpointing someone like this so quickly, but it's certainly reasonable given her power set. I'd still handicap it in her favor. The Thunderbolt has higher potential, but is limited by Jakeem. He'd need to bring the abstract level stuff out of the gate or Jenny would end it quickly and mercilessly.
That's...a good question. And as an old JSA fan, I should be someone who can answer it, but it's one of those situations where I remember the story arcs but not specific feats a lot of times. I'd have to go through my collection to jog my memory.
Technically he has some Silver Age feats too, that I believe made it unscathed through the original Crisis. So there may be some utter cheese feats back there too.
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Silver Age? I thought he came to light during Kingdom Come? And all that old stuff was from Johnny Thunder. Are the feats the same I mean I can understand it if it is...its the same genie but still.
The Thunderbolt (the 5D Imp) is the same, yeah. It's just that there's been different humans directing him. The first couple JSA arcs with Jakeem heavily referenced the Silver Age stuff with Johnny Thunder, so I'm reasonably sure it's canon (at least until Flashpoint, then who knows).
Kingdom Come was a different universe. Not the primary DCU. Not sure what you're referring to there.
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if he referenced it i'll take it as canon. its not like we'll get much clarity anyway. but what I was saying was that Jakeem appeared in Kingdom Come years before he appeared in mainstream DCU. JJ didn't discover Thunderbolt till years later iirc
But we've seen how it can alter reality in Johns JSA run, and a 5d imp is a 5d imp. (Maybe colors are inferior to Mxy types, maybe not, but all have borked Spectre..)
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The Johnny merge was a character thing. I don't see it as changing the power set in any way. I think Johns explicitly made sure the Thunderbolt kept both sets of memories (iirc), so yeah.
Spectre's low-hanging fruit sometimes. He's not always at his "supposedly #2 in the universe" levels.
Sin's point is that we shouldn't just take "5D Imp" and let him slide without specific feats. Jenny's arguably a reality warper as well (she certainly blurs the line between high-level matter and time manip. and overt reality warping), so if it weren't for quick-draw shenanigans, it could actually be a good fight. Would probably be hard to vote against a 5D Imp in a protracted fight, even given all of that. But given the human element with the Thunderbolt, she can definitely win.
Jakeem's PIS in that case. "Banish the spectre" is all he told it to do.
The color from.Crisis Times Five dealt with Spectre easily, and Thunderbolt matched it.
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that scene wasn't pis. JJ was specific, Spectre even warned Thunderbolt not to phuck with him. Jakeem tried to banish him to the 5th dimension but ended up getting bfred himself. at no point did Specter even appear threatened. This kinda goes with Thunderbolts history...he's shown to be beaten before.
Well, it's limited to Jakeem's orders. Mordru beat it, but that could be seen as Jakeem only telling it to banish him into the pen, and it just stood there and let Mordru beat it down.
But as the character developed, it learnes to act on it's own volition (Such as attacking QWSP despite being subservient to him.)
Plus, Day of Vengeance was a pretty bad story in general. I believe it was connected to the terrible Countdown to Final Crisis storyline.
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Countdown to FC was an unholy mess. Not only was it poorly paced and all over the place in focus, but it actually managed to do the opposite of its name. The only thing it was good for was confusing readers who expected a logical lead-in to FC. The books that actually tied in well were floating elsewhere in relative obscurity.
Maybe the worst "event" book I've ever read, and that's saying something.
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