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what happened to the comic industry?

it's nothing like 10 years ago at all

it seems like there is no traction in discussing new events and different titles

vs forum as well there is no debate on any matchups

not only here but throughout the internet

has anime officially taken over the comic nerd demographics?


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Dude, try watching 1970's Pete's Dragon and comparing it to the remake.


You know what Keith Giffen's Justice League and 1970's Pete's Dragon has in commom. Vaudeville references. Skits, jokes, dance numbers, all kinds of classic comedy.

Comics and tv and movies, its all done now by people who probably don't even know what vaudeville even is. Their humor comes from stupid SNL skits that all revolve around partisan politics. I miss the comedy, I miss the humor, I miss slapstick.

It's all stupid idealogy and axes to grind now.


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Originally posted by MrMind
it's nothing like 10 years ago at all

it seems like there is no traction in discussing new events and different titles

vs forum as well there is no debate on any matchups

not only here but throughout the internet

has anime officially taken over the comic nerd demographics?
This is what happens when things go mainstream, but would I want comics written for the "nerds"who frequent online sites like this, no. It's also your age, as with pop music, with comics too you get out of touch. Pop culture is for people younger than you now Mindy, perhaps.

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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
This is what happens when things go mainstream, but would I want comics written for the "nerds"who frequent online sites like this, no. It's also your age, as with pop music, with comics too you get out of touch. Pop culture is for people younger than you now Mindy, perhaps.



Boomers writing to millennials?

No wonder the New52 failed. Grant Morrison writing to people in their teens and early 20's.


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I'll tell you what happened:
a) Crap storylines
b) Wildly inconsistent power levels
c) Character origin and company reboots occurring way too frequently


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I mean....zop, you say all that, but the Silver Age was worse. One day Superman/Thor would move planets, then the next they'd be fighting gorillas who also happened to be from the future and were theor descendants or whatever. Some of the (a lot of the) storylines were shit as well. We just happen to be on the ground, as it were, week in and week out so can see all of it.

It's like music. Yeah sure every decade had it's classics...but it had it's fair share of dress as well, we just don't remember it.


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I mean....zop, you say all that, but the Silver Age was worse. One day Superman/Thor would move planets, then the next they'd be fighting gorillas who also happened to be from the future and were theor descendants or whatever. Some of the (a lot of the) storylines were shit as well. We just happen to be on the ground, as it were, week in and week out so can see all of it.

It's like music. Yeah sure every decade had it's classics...but it had it's fair share of dress as well, we just don't remember it.
thumb up spot on, and I stand by the older you get the less pop culture matches your needs.

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Re: what happened to the comic industry?

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Originally posted by MrMind
it's nothing like 10 years ago at all

it seems like there is no traction in discussing new events and different titles

vs forum as well there is no debate on any matchups

not only here but throughout the internet

has anime officially taken over the comic nerd demographics?


I think it has. Manga has become alot more mainstream over the years. First sign was when they took over bookstores. But, at the time Direct market still sold more. Now that's not the case, so yeah. I still like comics though but unlike my generation most kids under 18 like my Godson are growing up with Manga.


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All the good writers and artists started focusing on creator owned.


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All the good writers and artists started focusing on creator owned.


Like who? What kind of work?

Does it hold a candle to Cerebrus the Aardvark, Groo the Wanderer, Usagi Yojimbo, TMNT, and even Spawn. Or is it more like "What you can read in the big two rebranded" or "Idealogy!"


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Originally posted by zopzop
I'll tell you what happened:
a) Crap storylines
b) Wildly inconsistent power levels
c) Character origin and company reboots occurring way too frequently

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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
And yet,

https://www.comichron.com/yearlycomicssales.html

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The comics industry has been on the rise, with 2021 setting an all-time revenue high. This surpasses the 1993 boom, even when adjusted for inflation.

www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2...-2-billion/amp/

Comics are actually thriving right now. We're even seeing Indie titles pop off a bit.

With vs forums stuff, maybe general interest in that specifically has fallen off though. Or at least moved to other venues.

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Weak Saga's and all out inconsistencies.

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I mean....zop, you say all that, but the Silver Age was worse. One day Superman/Thor would move planets, then the next they'd be fighting gorillas who also happened to be from the future and were theor descendants or whatever. Some of the (a lot of the) storylines were shit as well. We just happen to be on the ground, as it were, week in and week out so can see all of it.

It's like music. Yeah sure every decade had it's classics...but it had it's fair share of dress as well, we just don't remember it.


Pretty much.

Sure, there is this whole sjw/wokeness/LBGQTukvcasghfiukasg-mania going on...

... but let's not pretend that past decades of comics were free of any agendas.

Rushing deadlines, disregarding continuity, preferring quantity over quality, blowing movie studios - now those are problems.


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I mean, people are complaining about inconsistencies.....when DC needed to destroy everything and restart it in 1985 because they had too many inconsistencies.

Odin was enslaved by random space ants who fed him drugged gruel, lmao.

Hulk could....fly, at one point, I think, but then the comics suddenly forgot it.

Inconsistencies have always been there. We just remember it better now because information is so readily searchable now.


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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It's also your age, as with pop music, with comics too you get out of touch. Pop culture is for people younger than you now Mindy, perhaps.
lol, roasted

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