Of all the weapons the Predator has, only two could actually get through the T-800's armored chasis. #1, The Plasma Caster, and #2, the wrist nuke. Literally every other weapon the Predator has is for cutting or piercing flesh and bone. Might do good at removing the Terminators skin sheath, but won't do $h!t against the endoskeleton underneath.
Also, the Terminators are literally every bit as fast and agile as a human, and in some cases moreso. But as strong as a Predator is, it aint going to toe for toe with a Terminator.
To compete with a War Android like a Terminator, you'd want something more akin to a Military Caste Yautja. Maybe something like the Military Hydra armed with it's Missile Battery or a Blazer armed with it's Blazer Cannons
The spear, the disk will easily pierce a Terminator, dlex, even low grade will cut through earth metals.
Regardless, This is strictly feats from terminator one, Arnie gets smoked, The predator is just as strong, faster, a better fighter, better tech and melee weaponry, better ranged weaponry and can tank the firearms that T-800 used long enough to one shot with either plasma caster or the disk that would vibrate right through multiple t-800s, or his spear or net all which have been shown to pierce metal.
Since when can the yautja cut through a metal that survives even heavy duty AR gunfire, and even a freaken petrol tanker explosion right up his ass? The only thing that really damaged the T-800 was a high velocity impact and being run over by said Tanker, which broke an ankle spoke, and a pipe bomb detonation from a pipe bom literally thrust right between it's torso parts? I'm sorry, but if you think a bladed or edged weapon is CUTTING through that, then you are incorrect.
That said, I did not say the Predator would lose. As I said, the yautja does have one tool that can kill a T-800 - The Plasmacaster. And with it's mask sensors, accurate targeting, and shoulder cannon, if it launches a headshot at the term taking out it's CPU, or aims for the power cells in it's torso, it could end the Terminator even before it's scans penetrates the yautja's stealth cloak.
That is the probable scenario thatw ould occur, and yes, the predator wins in this scenario. But you guys really do need to consider not considering that the predator is going to just walk up to a T and fistf@ck it to death, or slice it up with bladed weapons that have not really cut anything more impressive than sides of beef. Remember, predator 2 ONLY, just like the T is restricted to Term 1 feats.
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Given the limitations of the T-800, I’d give a slight edge to the Yautja, due to the plasma caster. If the clown show feats from Terminator Genisys were allowed, then T-800 wins pretty easily.
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I don't see any scenario, outside of a hand-to-hand fight, where the T-800 comes out on top. The plasma caster would dominate every time.
Additionally, the T-800 has been impaled by a steel pole before, and the combistick is significantly more durable and sharper, making it an even greater threat.
The Predator's weapons don't have feats against anything above human level. Not saying the T-800 would no sell the plasma caster, but I don't think it will one shot him.
The steel pole you mentioned was wielded by another terminator, it took multiple tries and the T-800 basically crippled at that point. The Predator may simply lack the physical strength pierce the Terminator, especially if the T-800 is actively resisting. Getting within melee range of the Terminator is a bad idea for the Predator.
The plasma caster doesn't need to one-shot the T-800; a few blasts at most would be enough to incapacitate it. Plasma is significantly hotter than the molten steel that melted the T-800.
The combistick is more durable than any human-made metal. Its sharper edge requires only a fraction of the force the other Terminator used to penetrate the T-800. Remember
Pressure = Force / Area
A Predator's strength isn't that far off from a T-800's.
And that's why I'm giving the win to the Predator. Without the plasma caster the Terminator wins.
First of all, it's the T-1000's strength. Second, the T-1000 could only do that to the T-800 because he prone and almost immobile. The Predator would have to try to impale a fully functional T-800, and that will end poorly for the alien. There's no way the Predator has the strength of a Terminator. Not even close. A heavily damaged T-800 punched through a steel door in T1. The Predator doesn't have strength feats on that level.
Are you seriously suggesting that the combistick can't easily penetrate the T-800? Do you even know what a combistick is?
The Predator is significantly faster and more agile than the slow-moving T-800. It could easily stab through the T-800's power source before it has a chance to react.
The T-800 punched through a metal door (likely not steel) only after numerous strikes. If you gave a Predator a metal ram, it could achieve the same result, though it might require a few more hits.
Meanwhile, the Predator effortlessly tore through a metal train car as if it were tissue paper, and afterwards causing substantial internal damage.
While the T-800 is stronger, the difference isn't massive. My estimate is that the T-800 is about 2 to 3 times stronger than the Predator.
Feats for the combistick that prove it can penetrate titanium? And if it can, now you need to prove that the Predator is strong enough to do so.
Lol yeah, the Predator is so fast and agile that a middle-aged cop could hang with him in melee combat. The T-1000 needed several attempts to hit an immobile T-800's power source, but the physically inferior Predator is going to one-shot a functional T-800. Get real.
The only reason we're even having this debate is because the T-800 is limited to his T1 feats only. You know he's vastly physically stronger if we take all feats into account.
It seems you're not familiar with what a combistick is. Before we get into that, how many times stronger do you think a Terminator is compared to a Predator, based on feats?
2x, 3x, 4x,...?
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