Beyonder has done, solo, what it took Lucifer AND Michael to accomplish : creating a universe, creating life, erasing an Abstract from creation, destroying a galaxy, causing multiversal wide destruction, etc...
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Oh please. Lucifer couldn't do sh|t creation-wise without his brother's power. Accomplished only after his brother died, never to return again. And it was mentioned as a universe multiple times.
Beyonder was doing that crap all by his lonesome.
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this was again reconfirmed in v2 when lucifer mentioned during v1 he left presence creation and went into the infinite void after creating his own multiverse. (please log in to view the image)
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oh please, lucy was erasing infinite universes in mansion of silence just by the presence of him being there
he tanked multiversal blasts three times, including one time when he was severely weakened
he also used michael's energy to create a infinite multiverse apart from presence's, with higher dimensions and realms
Lucifer was wiping an Eldritch being (of whom has leached off of multiple universes beyond DC, and not made by the Presence) out of existence with a thought
beyonder was doing what crap in his lonesome? he never created or destroyed a multiverse on panel. all he has was hype statements that wasn't backed up by feats. and none of it was impressive consider how small marvel cosmology/multiverse is compared to dc.
so what it was mentioned as universe? in marvel ewing used universe/multiverse/omniverse interchangeably. the scale of what lucy and mike was operating at was absolutely gigantic. to discredit you will have to go the retarded astner route of seperating gaiman/carey cosmology from mainstream dc as a whole. (which was debunked by me at least 3 times already)
to prove beyonder can stand up to lucifer in power you first need to prove marvel multiverse (include the beyond realm） is the same size as dc
Half the stuff you mentioned, tanking multiversal blasts, destroying lesser realms with his presence, the Beyonder's done. While in MORTAL form.
One feat you mentioned for Lucifer involves using his now dead brother's energy to accomplish. And like I've said, Lucifer's creation USING HIS BROTHER'S POWER was mentioned as a universe just as many times as it was mentioned as a multiverse. So big deal.
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lol at this cheerleading circlejerk by stilt, keep on going marvel fanboys. I'm having a laugh
cool, lucifer has infinite will, michael demiurgos' energy is the omnipotent energy of creation, and lucifer can will and manipulate that. what makes you think he cant do the same to beyonder's energy.
the sphere of gods by itself is infinitely grander than the third dimensional multiverse. and destiny sit on the top of the dc multiversal hierarchy chain.
Destiny holds the entire multiverse in his book. He sits outside of the orrery and straddles all of creation. He literally is the Destiny of the DC multiverse. He had no power in Lucifer's multiverse as Lucifer didn't create it with destiny in mind.
lucifer and michael are even above that.
beyonder made marvel universe look like a droplet in the ocean? big deal
michael was described as Spark that expands forever—Ocean of Power with no Shore
Yet Michael died and was never able to recover. His greatest feat required him to DIE expending all his energy so his brother, Lucifer, who was specificially made to shape that energy could form something out of it. Lucifer almost died too but was saved last second by one of his cronies.
Beyonder doesn't need anyone or anything for him to create, destroy, restore, or erase. His enemies have tried to kill him multiple times and each time he raises himself up under his own power and goes about his business as usual.
Last time I checked, Michael's still deader than a door nail, right?
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