It is something that will blow ur mind right after u hear it, but after u think about it, ull understand. We arnt aware of true reallity. U cant always trust wut ur eyes tell u. In reallity, we distinguish things by color. To some people, their orange might be someone elses blue, but they all call it orange. It may be the same with everything. Black might be white to some people. Big may be small, but u never know wut the other person is actually seeing.
Take that, whoever that person was for killing my non-philosophical topic, even though it had nothing to do with philosiphy.
I have never had any patience for that point of view. Prove it is so. Otherwise, we are all built the same so why assume others see different? Pointless prevarication.
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It's the sort of point of view that Hume detested... everything we have tells us that people see things the same, To think otherwise on mere theoretical musings is akin to irrational belief with no basis.
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see this is the reason i made this post. The only kind of people that come in these posts and talks are the kind of people that say things like "Hume detested" and "mere theoretical musings is akin to irrational belief with no basis". Im not trying to make fun of u. I wish i could put those kind of words in a sentence.
#1 Curious, they don't even do a search for the word Hume, either in a dictionary or on the internet--they remain perfectly happy never knowing who or what this man did---nor is there an even brief flicker of movement in the frontal lobe or synapses able to take on this tedious task
#2 Most likely they live in a cave...Scared of the other "kinds of people" out there--- they settle for only hunting at night
#3 Fraternize at the local tavern until 2AM for the past 16 years
#4 Deplete their brain cells by inhaling large amounts of smoke from their bowels
#5 Ask question when they already know the answer
#6 Make posts w/ these simply touching phrases and graciously heartfelt feelings..."Im not trying to make fun of u. I wish i could put those kind of words in a sentence."
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#1 I guess most of the time people probably completely ignore you
#2 You don't understand that most people choose to make fun of someone when they do or say something dumb, not when they do or say something intelligent
I'm just kidding though, of course...I'm not really agitated by your "ssthomeone elsthe might sthee redsth & bluesth as different colorths" statement"---I just think you're pretty funny---let's be friends---now give me your lunch money!!
I am colourblind, I'd be surprised if you saw colours as I did (yes, it doesn't mean I see everything in black and white =P Only that some colours appear as similar or identical, while they in fact are not - according to others )
And then you have relativity, colour depends on your speed to the object. Different people in different situations can interpret colours differently.
what is reality? how do we know what reality is. we could say that the world we live in now is reality, but that's only our point of view. when we see, hear, smell, touch, it's only electrical signals going from there to our brain. there is no true reality, just different realities from each persons point of view.
Colourblindness is a completel irrelevence to the point that humans are all constructed in the same fashion. Two humans with the same colourblindness still work in the same way. You must have missed my point entirely. We can understand and describe the way in which your colourblindness works from our own frame of reference. We know the colours you cannot distinguish and how they would look if you could. People who were colourblind and then were not, or developed colour blindness, can attest that when things are working fine it all works in the same way the rest of us do.
As I say, you have to PROVE there is something different about the way different people are for this theory to make any sense at all. Otherwise it is just groundless speculation of no value. This whole 'we can never be SURE' point of view simply abandons the basic precepts on which we live our life. You have a ton of evidence that things ARE as they are and none at all that they are not so why bother doubting?
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Last edited by Ushgarak on Jun 25th, 2003 at 10:36 AM
Though, humans can be created in the same manner, but still they will perceive things differently from their point of view (already mentioned an example, due to relativity theory.)
I am not sure whether there is one "true" reality, but what if it is? Unless that reality can be proved to be true, it is only as real as any other reality we happen to perceive.
You people. Don't you see that you are missing the important thing? If you people actually get off your ass and actually do what you are saying.. you might even get somewhere.
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Diaspora> Good to know, that there are people like you, who can make such philosophical statements in a thread. Why on Earth did you write that? Is there… a point?
Highelf> There is a reason why mentally impaired people are in institutions. For the exact reason that they can’t distinguish between reality and fantasy. If not all of us humans saw, felt and heard the same things, we would not even be able to communicate, or agree on letters of an alphabet. We ARE really built the same, sure there may be flaws, but the genetic make-up is the same.
Believing in, say, life after death, is akin to a delusion. You have no proof, other than your belief. Trusting in something which is totally unsubstantiated is, unfortunately, still part of our culture, but, hey, I have faith in humanitys ability to get smarter… eventually.
Sure, reality is what my brain tells me, but it is a little more than that. It is also what everyone ELSES brain tells them, aside from people whose brains malfunction. Doctors can diagnose mental illnesses, and see what part of their brains, that do not work.
Scepticism is not the destroyer of fantasy. It’s weeding out all the crap and BS and get to the core of the matter, where the REAL mysteries may be.
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I have thought these same thoughts. But for now, (still a bit on point of view) I am talking about the movie, I beleive that THE "REAL WORLD" IS ONLY A SECONDE MATRIX !!! Think about it, look at all the clues throughout the films, like Neo feeling the Sentinals inside him, How is that possble, he is not connected to the machines anymore, (well agent smith but he has been "freed" also) there is no possible way he could of felt them, and zap 'em, without STILL being connected, meaning......
Also, it is classic twist writing (like I do in almost all my end off year english exams) NOTHING IS WHAT IS SEEMS I think Morpheous ounce said... and that is wayyyyyyyyyy past true.
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Your never really in Reallity
It is something that will blow ur mind right after u hear it, but after u think about it, ull understand. We arnt aware of true reallity. U cant always trust wut ur eyes tell u. In reallity, we distinguish things by color. To some people, their orange might be someone elses blue, but they all call it orange. It may be the same with everything. Black might be white to some people. Big may be small, but u never know wut the other person is actually seeing. 
Jun 21st, 2003 11:14 PM
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