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jinzin
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GUYVER vs. IRON MAN

One is wears super powered plate armor and packs tons of lazors, explosives and strength.

the other wears a bioweapon armor suit that allows for...well pretty much the same.

who do you think would win?

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I personally wanna say Guyver, but I'm leaning towards Iron Man though. Guyver has the speed, agility, and durability, and while not as many weapons, they get the job done. Iron Man though, has the strength, defenses, and firepower though. It's hard for me to decide right now though.


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Oh damn, i thought you meant McGuyver. THAT would be cool. He'd make like a nuclear bomb out of a blender and.... nobody cares.


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nope....lol
well i think guyver should be on par if not above on strength level, since it increases the wearers strength a hundred fold....
After thinking about this a little bit longer I say guyver,,,,,,even if he started to get into trouble he could just blow his own brains out with his pressure cannon and let the control metal take over from there after that the guyver would be 10 times stronger and iron man would be screwed.....but assuming that doesn't happen,,,,I guess i still don't know, i mean I'm pretty sure the guyver's blades would shred iron mans armor but i doubt he could get close enough to effectively use them, so who knows.


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is the guyver the thing i seen a movie about a while ago??? is he in comics???.... what the hell was that movie called??? ... i'd like to see it again. it probably wouldnt be as good to me now since i'm older. it was good when i was younger though big grin

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The movie is called "THE Guyver" theres two of them. the first being a mix of scifi and silly, and the second being a straight up serious (and looooooong) movie.
but yeah the Guyver has a comic, it was in print for a while here, but viz cancelled it's translation just when it was getting good. (sigh)
It's still being produced in japan though.
and yeah unless you got some time on your hands or you simply don't care what you're going to watch be waery of these films......although th fight scenes in the second are really really kickass.


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guyver straight up here are the stats for the guyver

Physical strength: Subject possesses the standard Guyver strength of approximately 100 men.

-Unit possesses a pair of roving orbs on either side of subjects head that along with protruding antenna makes up a hyper sensory system that can detect the motion of multiple targets, even through obstacles such as wall and other barriers and has a range of approximately 100 meters (~328 Feet).

-Durability: Subjects bio-armor is derived from a combination of organic and inorganic components that gives it a dexterity of about twenty times that of steel and has the ability to regenerate both armor and host completely from any amount of damage that does not impair the functionality of armors Control Medal, consequently the only way to kill a Guyver is by use of a unit remover or the destruction of the Control Medal.

-Speed: Subjects has a reflex speed that ranges from 5 to 40 times normal, a top ground speed of up to 250 MPH, and a top air speed of 300 MPH.

-Subject also possesses a highly efficient infrared laser orb emitter located just above the Control Medal, though the weakest of the Guyvers weapons, the laser is capable of killing standard Zoanoids and can be fired with both extreme speed and accuracy at any target within subjects field of vision. Laser has also been shown to be able to be fired in a continuous beam that can easily slice through most material such as steel I-Beams.

-Subject has two standard retractable vibrational swords, one on each arm, composed of specialized bio-armor material and are capable of slicing easily through almost anything they come into contact with the exception of other similarly or above rated vibrational weapons or material specifically resistant to vibrational weapons attack.

-Mega Smasher: Extremely power particle beam cannon weapons, capable of destroying everything in their path. The subject has two mega-smashers, one within each of its open able chest plates, and can be used individually for maximum control or together for maximum destruction. It takes time to open the protective covers over the mega-smasher cannons, as well as several seconds to fully empower the beam which leaves subject vulnerable to attack. Though power output varies from time to time, this extremely power weapon can easily destroy a skyscraper in a single blast.

-Sonic Emitters: Located around mouth of subject, they produce a sonic blast that can vary intensity from just producing ear-splitting noise to actually being able to destroy objects, such as making a human head explode or destroy incoming mini missiles. Emitters have a set radius of 45 degrees and a range of 15 to 20 meters.

-Gravitational powers: Subject possesses a gravity control orb located in the middle of its waist that can generate and focus gravitational energies for a variety of uses, ranging from simple flight to the generation of a Pressure Cannon. The Pressure Cannon is a gravity weapon and is basically a ball of concentrated kinetic energy that produces the equivalent impact force of an armor piercing tank shell and has a range of over 30 meters. As a standard Guyver, subject can fire up to three Pressure Cannons in rapid succession as well as use the generating matrix of the Pressure Cannon to produce a direction shield that can block anything short of a Mega Smasher, the Pressure Cannon can also be fired single handedly at reduced power. The only real limitation of the Guyvers gravitational abilities is that it only has one gravity control device so gravitation power can only be used for one thing at a time at full power, combinations like flight and pressure cannon will both work at only half their normal power level if used at same time.

-Unit has also shown the ability to compensate for environments that would otherwise be hostile to its host. Though armor doesn't possess an oxygen supply, armor keeps the host in an oxygen rich pressurized environment and acts as a rebreather for host so even in total vacuum that unit can extend host internal air supply so host can survive up to twenty minutes on one breath of air. Additionally unit can filter out oxygen from surrounding environment so host can survive in otherwise hostile environments such as areas filled with poisonous gases or underwater.

-The unit possesses standard limitations of host combat skills and stamina as a human host cannot maintain the Guyvers power levels for prolonged periods of time, though unit has shown the ability to regenerate host energy reserves as needed provided the host refrains from using high energy draining weapons such as units Mega-Smashers repeatedly, this reduces strain on host to simple mental stress of using armor.


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lol anyone who reads that post is isn't going to have half an idea as to what any of that is,,,,control medal unit remover etc....lol.


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For those that have seen the Guyver anime, books, or movies (which are out on DVD now for those that are interested), the Control Metal is the ball on the Guyver's forehead. Grey fox pretty much explained Guyver's powers down to a "T". And as for strength, translated in Marvel terms, I'd say Guyver's about a Class 10, give or take.

And grey fox, where did you get that info by the way? I've looked for Guyver info online before, and couldn't find jack.


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he could be stronger than class ten, maybe not, just 100 times the wearers strength so for a guy that benches say 150 to 200 pounds times 100 (ahh screw it i don't feel like math right now.)
plus if he does the control metal take over thing, the armor becomes ten times stronger, so 1000 times the weares strength would be what then?


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Well, I don't know about that. In order for the armor to go into "defence" mode, he have to be injured severely or just regerated from "death" (i.e. when his brain was temporarily destroyed). Only thing is, it's not exactly something he'd do on his own, and it's too unpredictable, sense the unit would kill everything in site pretty much. I don't think it would have to go that far anyway.


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yeah I'm just saying if i had a G unit and was in a losing scenario with .....well nothing to loose i guess, I would blow my brains out with a pressure cannon and let it do the job for me.

still though how strong is that? I'm curious but lazy.


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hey tron didn't know you were a guyver lover i am a avid fan but yes it is difficult to find good sites


http://www.warriorguyver.com/wgfanfic/index.htm is a very good site it's mostly fan fics and pictures but the index part is incredibly detaield


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i love that site, i'm stoked for the new bio fighter commander guyot,,,,that's 50 bucks down the drain!


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Originally posted by Lone-Wolfe
Oh damn, i thought you meant McGuyver. THAT would be cool. He'd make like a nuclear bomb out of a blender and.... nobody cares.


lol you remind me of ryan dunn "god damn this is the bmx-tug-of-war" but i hand it too ironman of corse i do hes my all time fave besides venom


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Originally posted by jinzin
yeah I'm just saying if i had a G unit and was in a losing scenario with .....well nothing to loose i guess, I would blow my brains out with a pressure cannon and let it do the job for me.

still though how strong is that? I'm curious but lazy.


Yeah, but would it work? After all, it took Enzyme's body, which fluids were specifically designed to dissolve Guyver's armor, to do the job. It's a possibility, but I'm not too sure it would work. And if it did, it might be enough for a win, but then again that would screw everyone else around in the process.

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hey tron didn't know you were a guyver lover i am a avid fan but yes it is difficult to find good sites


http://www.warriorguyver.com/wgfanfic/index.htm is a very good site it's mostly fan fics and pictures but the index part is incredibly detaield


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"then again that would screw everyone else around in the process."
lol yeah i guess he'd have to tell everyone else to get the hell out of dodge huh?


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grey fox: Thank you very much. That was interesting.

I'd say the Guyver. I think his weapons are more advanced than Iron Man's and so would break through his armour. The swords for example would slice right through him. Plus Guyver has martial arts skills.

The movie Guyver:dark Hero has some awesome fight scenes.

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Could the Guyver fly?


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Great sounding fight, but i'll have to go with Iron Man.
If Gundam's top speed is 250-300 mph, that would make him
FAR slower than Shell-head. Iron Man would win,
listen to Black Sabbath, have a martini.

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