well, apocalypse created war, who inturn beat juggernaut. apocalypse by his own account said wars power exceeded everybodies but his own. so if he was more powerful than war......... he should win. however, apocalypse is usually thwarted and written improperly compared to what he COULD be. it's hard to say. i'd say that apocalypse could counteract some, if not all of juggernauts magic. that could make him vulnerable to physicall force of sufficient degree. to many variables to say one would win or the other........
Alright, this is what im talking about. unstoppable vs. imovable. im putting my bet on apocalypse. basically because he's older, wiser, stronger, and has more power at his disposal. but they would still hammer each other for hours before juggernaut finally falls.
i've often pondered just what would happen. does apocalypse have knowledge of magics? i'd love to see him with an enchanted pair of brass knuckles that could harm juggernaut physically. that would let cain feel "pain" again. like he used to when he was mortal.
but to what effect??? to somebody who is completely physically invulnerable, i doubt weapons would be the deciding factor. i think apocalypse could manhandle juggernaut though. he is stronger......... both have unknown limits, but i believe juggernaut caps off somewhere. where apocalypse could potentially be limitless. no rage, no thinking or willing himself stronger........ he just is. plus, he has a ton of experience cain doesn't, that and he has battle skills that are more than likely better than juggernaut's basic hand to hand techniques. the more i think about it apocalypse written properly should win.
that's funny considering juggernaut clapped his hands together and knocked jubilee and her teammates out with a thunder clap.......... that and cyclops most powerful beams don't even register. they were once described as "being able to rip a small planet in half" with juggernaut simply smiling..........
yea....i think that was the point in me mentioning two weak asses....they would still manage to beat two 'doosh' bags like apoc and jugs...both incredibly strong, but never manage to win
got your point. apoc and juggy both beat the living hell out of each other. then when they're literally exhausted, shadow cat jumps in and slaps them both thus knocking them out. LOLOLOL
i think this happened once in a silver surfer comics. morg and terrax were beating the crap out of each other, and just as morg was about to kill terrax, they get zapped by lasers from robots or androids. but because they were already exhausted from fighting each other, they had no more strength to fight back. can't remember what happened after that.
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