does Lokis asgradian magic match up to the SS power cosmic? Remeber then SS fought Odin he went down in two seconds Loki held his own against Surter alot longer and was quite impressive. I think it took both thor and odin to take down surter
I personally think it would be a hella-close fight, but I don't know enough about either character to back that up.
The majority will probably side with Surfer. But when Loki's not being a coward or jobbing to Thor he actually has some good showings. And I could swear that this fight happened in a comic once....I just can't remember where or what happened.
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how do you figure he was only at a fraction of his original power?
loki was looking for someone to kill thor. he found ss. to test ss he battled him himself. they stalemated in a greco-roman knuckle lock. loki tricked ss and sent him to asgard to kill thor and AMPED ss's power with his own! that first thor/ss battle, thor held his own against a ss who also had LOKI'S power! at the end, thor uses a fist to smash a power cosmic field, and ss admits thor was holding back in the fight and that thor's magic was GREATER than his own power cosmic.
now, before kg gets his undies in a rush, ss has since been shown to have increased his power, somehow, but i still side with thor in the overall power department.
what's all that mean??
means this is a very close fight . . .
i'll side very slightly with loki because of magic and intelligence. i think loki is capable of out-thinking ss and getting the wins.
The Surfer which debuted in his first title had been depowered twice. First by Galactus for betraying him (FF#50, was it?); then he really got whammied by the sonic shark in FF#72. In fact, the scuttlebut at the time was that the reason Surfer was depowered in FF#72 was to prepare him for his own title. In other words, it was a way of making him less powerful so writing stories and believable challenges for him, while Earthbound, would be possible.
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he wasn't 'depowered' to my knowledge in ff50. he was stranded, but that doesn't equate to 'depowered'. i also thought the shark incident was a solitary one (ie -- was relevent only to that issue). do you have any actual in-comic proof mindship, to add some credence to these claims? i'll admit to never having heard of either one being used before as claims that ss was depowered early on. don't forget, in those first issues, he battled the stranger and mephisto, 2 very heavy hitters . . .
It’s a proven fact that SS was much weaker in his early showing as I have shown many times.
If I remember correctly Loki best weapon couldn’t stop SS later on when he tried to kill Thor with Durok.
Like I have said SS went from a powerful hero ( at that stage)
To a one of the strongest in the multiverse directly stated in his own comics.
As i have shown in the past Simple Cosmic Blast nearly Killed Thor , SS actually Killed Durok ......... Someone who Loki and Thor feared cuz of his power
Am not saying this will be walk in the park for Surfer………..But I don’t see him loosing this to Loki …….Someone who regularly looses to Thor.
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Feb 20th, 2006 02:24 AM
, SS actually Killed Durok ......... Someone who Loki and Thor feared cuz of his power
