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i say Bryan does win this, he's pretty uber. maybe even spiteful uber erm


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Cap ftw.


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Cap ftw.

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Seriusly If Brian Fury is ripping the top off Tanks in the the Tekken U. Imagine what Cap would be doing. Cap ftw no contest.


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Let's see.

Bryan will have no chance of getting passed Cap's Shield.

Cap has bullet-time speed.

He can run a mile in just over a minute.

So...Bryan won't ever even touch him.


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Seriusly If Brian Fury is ripping the top off Tanks in the the Tekken U. Imagine what Cap would be doing. Cap ftw no contest.

That didn't make too much sense.....


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That didn't make too much sense.....


It doesn't have to make sense do you know why? Because I said and since I said its true now go play or you will force to embarass you, again.


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It doesn't have to make sense do you know why? Because I said and since I said its true now go play or you will force to embarass you, again.


No no, really
it doesnt make any sense
LoL
Did you mean to say bryan ftw?
i read it like 6 times

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i do see what you ment, but it was just strangely worded

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It still makes little sense.

Captain America's powerset does not grant him the ability to rip half a tank off and then toss it away while laughing.

No matter how you want to look at it.

Not to mention it is totally baseless.

But why even bother.


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It still makes little sense.

Captain America's powerset does not grant him the ability to rip half a tank off and then toss it away while laughing.

No matter how you want to look at it.

Not to mention it is totally baseless.

But why even bother.


hahhahahahaha
ok im not being rude, honestly
but your going to have to re-clairify yourself now
im literally laughing, but not at you, just in general, and im hungry
who are you rooting for? bryan or cap?

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without the shield, cap would lose. but with the shield. he'll stand a chance of getting the majority. maybe 7/10. he could use his shield to decapitate fury.

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Originally posted by Sam Z
And all cyborgs are the same?erm


Well you simply said that Bryan was cyborg and left it at that, what sort of response did you expect?

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Originally posted by Sam Z

Even if so, Cap doesn't have what it takes to do it. Direct shot from a tank didn't even stop him from running, let alone hurt him.


Yeah but did you notice that the light from the torches hurt his eyes and he was covering his face as well? Obvoulsy bullets can hurt his face.

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So what? May be he just didn't like it. He doesn't feel pain. It's said in his bio. And during gameplay he laughs when you kick him in the balls. Sounds like a proof to me.no expression


Yeah but despite that he grimaced when bright light shines on his eyes. If he didnt feel pain he wouldnt have grimaced. If his body is strong enough to take tank shells his eyes should be strong enough not to be affeced by bright light.

Furthermore why the hell would you cover your face if people were firing bullets at you if they didnt hurt. If your going to use "maybe" anythings possible but the likely explanation is that bullets can hurt his face. You can actually say the way Bryan has his face covered that he is protecting it, he is not just simply blocking out the light. Another thing Yoshi kills Bryan in an ending and he screams out in pain....the bio is crap. I havnet seen Let with any superhuman feats and I bet he can hurt Bryan.


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Not saying that he can't ko bulletproof people. When I mentioned bulletproof robots I was talking about Bryan's strength, not durability.


Ok

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Well, I can't say how fast Bryan runs, but his arch enemy is Yoshimitsu. This guy is a ninja who can fly, teleport and move faster than human eye reacts. Bryan is fast enough to keep up with him.


Not in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPY9hKJJvwA

but theres another video where Bryan beats Yoshi but to be quite honest that could be because Yoshi gave him time to get a bead on him.


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Originally posted by Superboy Prime
It still makes little sense.

Captain America's powerset does not grant him the ability to rip half a tank off and then toss it away while laughing.

No matter how you want to look at it.

Not to mention it is totally baseless.

But why even bother.


You know what Bryan Fury may win this but when you come out with stuff like Cap is peak human (You mean hes a glorified athelete probably) and his powerset doesnt enable him to rip half a tank off, it really shows how ignorant you are of Captain America.

If you're going to insult the character dont you think you need to know about the character first?

1. He doesnt need to be able to rip half a tank off, hes beaten people stronger than Bryan.
2. Hes NOT peak human. Cap is NOT Batman with a shield!


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Originally posted by Alfheim
[B]Well you simply said that Bryan was cyborg and left it at that, what sort of response did you expect?
Not this. no expression You asked if he's an ordinary thai boxer. So I replied that he's not and told you who he is. And you made it sound like the fact that Cap beat cyborgs before is supposed to prove something.


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Yeah but did you notice that the light from the torches hurt his eyes and he was covering his face as well? Obvoulsy bullets can hurt his face.



Yeah but despite that he grimaced when bright light shines on his eyes. If he didnt feel pain he wouldnt have grimaced. If his body is strong enough to take tank shells his eyes should be strong enough not to be affeced by bright light.

Furthermore why the hell would you cover your face if people were firing bullets at you if they didnt hurt. If your going to use "maybe" anythings possible but the likely explanation is that bullets can hurt his face. You can actually say the way Bryan has his face covered that he is protecting it, he is not just simply blocking out the light.
Man, just because he didn't want bullets to hit his face doesn't mean he was hurting. And you yourself said that if his body and eyes are strong enough to take a tank shot without being hurt why should he get hurt with a light or bullets? The question answers itself. He wasn't hurt. In the video it was clear that tank shot didn't hurt his body, nor his eyes.
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Another thing Yoshi kills Bryan in an ending and he screams out in pain....the bio is crap.

Not in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPY9hKJJvwA

but theres another video where Bryan beats Yoshi but to be quite honest that could be because Yoshi gave him time to get a bead on him.
The videos are not canon. Yoshi didn't kill Bryan and Bryan didn't kill Yoshi. The fact is, they fought in tekken 5, Bryan didn't have any weapons, and Yoshi had his deamonic blade, and as far as I know they are both alive now. Meaning that despite how fast Yoshi is, he couldn't kill Bryan even though he WANTED to, badly. That tells about his speed a lot. I don't know what bio you read, but it's a common fact about Bryan that he doesn't feel pain. I didn't make that up, Namco did.
And honestly, if a guy can laugh when he's kicked in the balls - it's a better proof to me than the tank video.

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I havnet seen Let with any superhuman feats and I bet he can hurt Bryan.
Sorry, what?


If Bryan is fast enough to keep up with Yoshi, then he's surely fast enough to fight Cap. Plus Bryan beats him in strength and durability. I just don't see how Cap wins this.
No disrespect to Steve.


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Not this. no expression You asked if he's an ordinary thai boxer. So I replied that he's not and told you who he is. And you made it sound like the fact that Cap beat cyborgs before is supposed to prove something.


Forget it.

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Man, just because he didn't want bullets to hit his face doesn't mean he was hurting.


Ok lets put it this way. If somebody was being fired at by machine gunfire and he decideds to cover his face what do you think is the most likely explanation?

A) He just felt like covering his face.

OR

B) They actually hurt

Furthermore why is he running at them. Dont you think theres a sense of urgency. How does Superman react when he gets shot at bullets doesnt he tend to just stand there or just walk into them?

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And you yourself said that if his body and eyes are strong enough to take a tank shot without being hurt why should he get hurt with a light or bullets? The question answers itself.


No it does not the eyes and the face could be a more vulnerbale area. Cyborgs tend to have parts of their body which are not that durable.


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He wasn't hurt. In the video it was clear that tank shot didn't hurt his body, nor his eyes.



If somebody shines a light in your eyes you wince. Why do people wince? Do people wince because the light doesnt hurt ot because it does. Right so let me get this straight when Bryan winces that means it didnt hurt?

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The videos are not canon. Yoshi didn't kill Bryan and Bryan didn't kill Yoshi. The fact is, they fought in tekken 5, Bryan didn't have any weapons, and Yoshi had his deamonic blade, and as far as I know they are both alive now. Meaning that despite how fast Yoshi is, he couldn't kill Bryan even though he WANTED to, badly. That tells about his speed a lot.


They may not be canon but I think the interesting thing is that it seems to be a reprensentation of both their skills. In both those videos Bryan is having to resort to using firearms. Just because its canon doesnt neccesarily mean its cant be used if its well written for example if Hulk kills Cap in a What If issue that is not unrealistic.

Furthermore Bryan may not have been killed by Yohsi because of durability not speed.

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Originally posted by Sam Z

I don't know what bio you read, but it's a common fact about Bryan that he doesn't feel pain. I didn't make that up, Namco did.
And honestly, if a guy can laugh when he's kicked in the balls - it's a better proof to me than the tank video.


Well he may laugh when he gets kicked in the balls but he grunts and groans when he gets punched and kicked, obvoulsy his balls are reinforced. I hope your not going to tell me grunting and groaning arent signs of pain.

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Originally posted by Sam Z

Sorry, what?


I dont think Lei has any superhuman feats but can beat Bryan....Eddy Gordo as well

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Originally posted by Sam Z

If Bryan is fast enough to keep up with Yoshi, then he's surely fast enough to fight Cap. Plus Bryan beats him in strength and durability. I just don't see how Cap wins this.
No disrespect to Steve.


We dont know if its speed that enables him to keep up with Yoshi for example The Punisher can give DD a good fight but not because of his speed. We have three videos one with him not dodging bullets and two otehr videos that show that Yoshi is faster than Bryan.


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Forget it.
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Ok lets put it this way. If somebody was being fired at by machine gunfire and he decideds to cover his face what do you think is the most likely explanation?

A) He just felt like covering his face.

OR

B) They actually hurt
Well, concidering that he can't be killed by bullets the most possible explanation is B). Because Bryan used to be human who got shot at war. So it can very well be just a reflex. He didn't want anything hitting his face. And ending of the video just proves it, he wasn't hurt by a tank, so no reason to believe that he was hurt with bullets. Just annoyed. Don't you think?
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Furthermore why is he running at them. Dont you think theres a sense of urgency. How does Superman react when he gets shot at bullets doesnt he tend to just stand there or just walk into them?

Hmm there's one thing about Bryan that easilly explains that. He likes killing. He does it with great pleasure. Remember i mentioned the upgrade? Well, the doctor who upgraded Bryan's body did him a favour. And after he was done, Bryan killed him. And everyone in the building as well just because they happened to be there. So there's nothing strange about him charging at soldiers that are shooting at him.
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No it does not the eyes and the face could be a more vulnerbale area. Cyborgs tend to have parts of their body which are not that durable.
We can't say for sure. But one thing I know for a fact. Namco said Bryan doesn't feel pain. I don't see why his face should be an exception.


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If somebody shines a light in your eyes you wince. Why do people wince? Do people wince because the light doesnt hurt ot because it does. Right so let me get this straight when Bryan winces that means it didnt hurt?
Not necessarily. Because of the light Bryan couldn't see who was standing there. Now remember, what people do when they can't see something, if it's too far or blurry? They narrow their eyes. Makes sense to me.

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They may not be canon but I think the interesting thing is that it seems to be a reprensentation of both their skills. In both those videos Bryan is having to resort to using firearms. Just because its canon doesnt neccesarily mean its cant be used if its well written for example if Hulk kills Cap in a What If issue that is not unrealistic.
In those videos Bryan was trying to kill Yoshi and since he's a military man there's no wonder that he was using firearms. They were not at the tournament so there were no rules and since Bryan had weapons he didn't need to use his fighting speed. On the tournament Bryan fought Yoshi h2h on arena. hand to sword actually and there was no hiding and no running.

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Furthermore Bryan may not have been killed by Yohsi because of durability not speed.
It's not like Bryan is in coma or anything. He's well and participating in the tekken 6 tournament. So there's only one logical explanation, he can keep up with Yoshi.

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Well he may laugh when he gets kicked in the balls but he grunts and groans when he gets punched and kicked, obvoulsy his balls are reinforced. I hope your not going to tell me grunting and groaning arent signs of pain.
Ok, lets take another comicbook example. Classic Juggernaut. He doesn't feel pain and can't be hurt. But he screams "eee" and "agh" more often than Hulk. So now we doubt Juggernaut's powers as well?


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I dont think Lei has any superhuman feats but can beat Bryan....Eddy Gordo as well
Oh Lei. Ma bad didn't get you first time.
For one I SERIOUSLY doubt that Lei or Eddy could beat Bryan. And even these guys shatter meter thick walls and columns like they're made of glass.

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We dont know if its speed that enables him to keep up with Yoshi for example The Punisher can give DD a good fight but not because of his speed. We have three videos one with him not dodging bullets and two otehr videos that show that Yoshi is faster than Bryan.
In two non-canon videos we didn't see who's faster because Bryan wasn't movin at all. He didn't have to, because it wasn't a tournament and he didn't have to fight fair. He was standing and shooting and Yoshi was dodging. And Bryan wasn't dodging bullets because he doesn't need to. Venom doesn't dodge bullets. Because he doesn't need to, but couple of times when he wanted to show off he did that with ease.

Ok, lets take the worst scenario of Bryans abilities. Lets say that he's much slower than Yoshi, that he can't keep up with him and that he does feel pain. Even in this worst case it doesn't make Cap's work any easier.
We know that Yoshi (who has blade that cuts through steel like through water and who is much faster than Bryan) fought Bryan at the tournament and still couldn't beat him. If speed advantage and the blade that cuts through still didn't help him hurt Bryan then what chances Cap has?


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