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time travel confusing thingy

I"m sure threads like this have been posted before but oh well...
If you were to travel back in time and kill yourself would you then dissapear, but I was thinking if you dissapeared then your future self never existed and since it was you who killed you in the past would you not be dead..... or something hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say if not feel free to make jerky comments about this thread.


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You can not travel into the past. There is no past or future only now and now always changes.

If you could go back into the past you would cause a paradox. There is three possible outcomes to this scenario; 1. the universe would blow up in another big bang, 2. you would find yourself back at the time machine as if nothing had happened (time reset), 3. you would kill yourself before you left and stand there wondering why you are still here (paradoxes are allowed).


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Originally posted by Darthburgerking
I"m sure threads like this have been posted before but oh well...
If you were to travel back in time and kill yourself would you then dissapear, but I was thinking if you dissapeared then your future self never existed and since it was you who killed you in the past would you not be dead..... or something hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say if not feel free to make jerky comments about this thread.


If your "present" killed your "future" self then, your "past" self and your "present" self would be undisturb. But when time pass, and your "present" self is in the time where you killed your "future" self, then you'll disappear. Get it?

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Backwards time travel is impossible. smile

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yeah I know it's impossible I was just curious what would happen.


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No, I meant traveling through time standing backwards. Maybe traveling to the past is possible.

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No, I meant traveling through time standing backwards. Maybe traveling to the past is possible.


laughing out loud .......... I think it is possible too, they had a show on Science Channel on it.

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It's like in Timeline.Time isn't like going from New york to Chicago.Time isn't real.


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Never saw that movie.


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I say if we can go back in time, let's all buy tons of Enron stock and then short sell it just before the scandal breaks.

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I say if we can go back in time, let's all buy tons of Enron stock and then short sell it just before the scandal breaks.


How do you know that's not what happened?


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Because all of us are not billionaires right now?

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Because all of us are not billionaires right now?


Did you not get the e-mail? Sorry about that. (ha ha)


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It's like in Timeline.Time isn't like going from New york to Chicago.Time isn't real.


Of course time is real.

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It's deemed impossible for time travel by some scientists:

"Say, if a man went back in time to kill his grandmother as a child, then she would have never given birth to his mother, who in turn would have never given birth to him. So if he didn't exist, how could he have travelled back in time in the first place?"

The fabric of time/space is very delicate.


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It's deemed impossible for time travel by some scientists:

"Say, if a man went back in time to kill his grandmother as a child, then she would have never given birth to his mother, who in turn would have never given birth to him. So if he didn't exist, how could he have travelled back in time in the first place?"

The fabric of time/space is very delicate.


Hmmmm, got think bout that.

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time isn't real........it's a man made concept. There's no such thing as "time travel".

The most intelligent post of this thread was, "You can not travel into the past. There is no past or future only now and now always changes."


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this is so coincedental i just finished watching back to the future and was thinking about the same thing messed

okay,so assuming it is possible, what are your views?

let's say,in the context of the movie,marty went back to the past and tried to get his parents together right?then he went onstage and played "Johny Be Good" ? and then a band member ran to the phone and called up the manager saying there was a new sound you just HAD to hear?it kinda brings he question as to whether HE was the one who brought back the music from the future?yet he heard it from [Ihis[/I] past right?

kinda brings about a whole circle of things.

i think that's what DBK was kinda asking about,the whole idea of the thing.
yeah i know it doesn't exist,but just as a discussion,if it does,it kinda bring about a whole circle of things and so many parodies right?

mind boggling,it is messed


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Marvin didn't call his manager.......he called his cousin Chuck........Chuck Berry, the original writer/performer of the song. wink

since we are discussing this in the hypothetical forum of a movie......I'll induldge.

quote:
kinda brings about a whole circle of things.


exactly. The only way time travel could possibly work (even if only in movies) is if our universe is pre-determined, fate. The whole ludicrous idea only works if every single moment of life from the big bang until our Universe's collapse was predetermined by some omnipitant being/intelligence. It's the only way to avoid a paradox. A paradox can not happen. In the movie Back to the Future the entire concept only works if it has always been predetermined that Marty McFly will go back in time, prevent his parents from meeting then get them together so they can procreate resulting in Marty McFly being born. Same with the song, Johnny Be Good. The song was around long before Marty was born........yet Marty played the song in front of Marvin Berry who called his cousin Chuck Berry to give him the song to write/perform. It only works if it was always predetermined that Chuck Berry would perform the song in the 50s........Marty would learn it in the 80s.....go back to the 50s.....play it for Marvin who could tell Chuck about it. As you said, a circle.


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