iantherage
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Lucas's planning?
How much planning did Lucas really have when he made A New Hope?
I mean, he was thinking of maybe killing off Han,
The prequals obviosly were only loosely connected to the original trilogy at first, only enough for him to be able to explain what happened.
And lastly, would anyone know where I would be able to see Lucas's 15 page original draft for A New Hope?
Mar 19th, 2007 08:44 PM
Superfly4000
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Lucas didn;t have to plan it, it's all true! Star Wars is a historical drama, he got the facts straight from the emperial records
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Mar 19th, 2007 08:46 PM
megadeus
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Lucas seems to have made up a lot of it as he went along.
Mar 19th, 2007 10:35 PM
General G
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It is what all great story writers do
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Mar 19th, 2007 10:38 PM
queeq
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True.
there was kind of a master plan though, designed by Lucas and (ANH&ESB) producer Gary Kurtz: a nine (or twelve) part series, in which Leia was NOT his sister (but there was another sister to be discoverd in later episodes), where LUke would fight and defeat Vader in EPIII and then move on to a confrontation with the Emperor another three episodes later.
When time for ROTJ came around, Kurtz was ditched and Lucas took a shortcut.
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Mar 19th, 2007 11:11 PM
iantherage
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by megadeus
Lucas seems to have made up a lot of it as he went along.
Yes, he did make up alot of it, but HOW much, I mean, there is alot of stuff that he obviosly could not have. I mean Vader being his dad? If he did, that's really awesome, but that seems like something he was building up to.
Also theres always talk about his like 15 page rough draft for ANH, does anyone have it, or know where I could find it?
Mar 20th, 2007 12:00 AM
iantherage
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq
True.
there was kind of a master plan though, designed by Lucas and (ANH&ESB) producer Gary Kurtz: a nine (or twelve) part series, in which Leia was NOT his sister (but there was another sister to be discoverd in later episodes), where LUke would fight and defeat Vader in EPIII and then move on to a confrontation with the Emperor another three episodes later.
When time for ROTJ came around, Kurtz was ditched and Lucas took a shortcut.
Yeah, see, it'd be really interesting to know what his plans were, if he had an idea that Han would meet up with his old friend Lando, even if he wasn't lando yet, or like just a general direction for them. He originally only got the rights for a trilogy. I mean, I guess that could be like a first CHUNK, but I dunno, just speculation.
Mar 20th, 2007 12:03 AM
queeq
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ANH and ESB are both still en route on the master plan. It starts to deviate from ROTJ on.
The treatment called The Star Wars: Journal of the Whills and other early versions of the SW scripts/treatments can be found here: http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts.htm
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Mar 20th, 2007 12:54 PM
iantherage
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by queeq
ANH and ESB are both still en route on the master plan. It starts to deviate from ROTJ on.
Thank you, this is just the goldmine I was looking for!
Mar 20th, 2007 11:25 PM
queeq
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You are welcome. But they are easily found, these scripts.
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Mar 21st, 2007 07:33 PM
General G
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I could never find them...
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Mar 22nd, 2007 10:16 PM
queeq
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All you have to do is Google. Anyway, you're very welcome.
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Mar 22nd, 2007 10:24 PM
General G
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I did
Well, thanks anyways
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Mar 22nd, 2007 10:25 PM
queeq
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Anytime.
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Mar 22nd, 2007 10:26 PM
coolmovies
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He still messed them up look at how fast ep three joins with four
Apr 16th, 2007 12:20 PM
General G
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Not really fast...kinda 20 years.
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Apr 16th, 2007 07:21 PM
Count Makashi
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Didn't Obis character had to survive until the end, but Alec Guiness requested that his character be killed, because he didn't like with what he got involved,i think i remember something like it, i could be wrong.
Its more of a questing, then a statement.
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Apr 16th, 2007 09:35 PM
General G
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Never heard that, I am not so sure I liked the whole "ghost" type of thing.
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Apr 16th, 2007 09:48 PM
Ordo
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The story is much more powerful if OB1 does get killed.
Of course without the PT, we don't know that.
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Apr 16th, 2007 10:07 PM
General G
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Yeah, but did he really have to come back?
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