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The_Tempest
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State of the Forum: Aug. 2016

For the past year or so, multiple users have complained about a board-wide diminishing quality of debates, a steady rise in trolling and shitposting, an ever-increasing sensitivity and hostility to certain viewpoints, and the pervasive cloud of partisanship and double standards.

So what is the state of the forum in your mind? And if these concerns are valid, how should we address them?

Discuss.

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NewGuy01
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It's pretty much gone to shit, yeah, and it's not on the road to recovery either.


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The_Tempest
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Why do you think that is, Sas?

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Beniboybling
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It's no better than it was when I joined tbh, people are just starting to open their eyes. smile


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The_Tempest
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It's no better than it was when I joined tbh, people are just starting to open their eyes. smile


I agree that the debating culture was at its most orderly peak when the late, great Gideon was around to guide the ship.

But why has the debating culture suffered so much since? And how can it be rectified?

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NewGuy01
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DMB doesn't run the debating scene here at all. I hear he does in parts of Comicvine, though.


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Jmanghan
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The forum is the worst its ever been.

For it to be rectified, people actually have to debate, instead of troll.


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darthbane77
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I can't really say, I just joined a couple days ago so I have no idea how it was before now.

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Nephthys
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I agree that the debating culture was at its most orderly peak when the late, great Gideon was around to guide the ship.

But why has the debating culture suffered so much since? And how can it be rectified?


Theres too many trolls and bitter relationships. Its just not much fun to debate any more with how negative and hostile everyone is. People have made it pretty personal.


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Zenwolf
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Originally posted by Jmanghan
People actually have to debate.


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carthage
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Forum members like DMB, Legend, Neph and Ancientpower routinely hyperbolize, blow feats out of proportion, and wank their characters to the point that having a debate is impossible. They aren't out to have a discussion and compare showings against other forum members, they're out to broadcast their worship and shut down other points of view. Which is why you get mass reporting sprees from them and trying to ban others who don't share their points of view


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Deronn Solo
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Too much shitty trolling going on, myself included. I'm going to start actually debating from here on out, though.


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Nephthys
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One easy improvement would be for carthage to finally get perma-banned.


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NewGuy01
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Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Too much shitty trolling going on, myself included. I'm going to start actually debating from here on out, though.


Why?

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carthage
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Also discussion of lesser known characters doesn't really happen either, its always discussion of known characters (Vader, Kun, Revan, Sidious). You rarely get threads from posters going into the Star wars Universe in the non battles thread, never have any discussion regarding non PT/TOR eras of the mythos, and battle topics seldom pass 2 pages or more.


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Also discussion of lesser known characters doesn't really happen either, its always discussion of known characters (Vader, Kun, Revan, Sidious). You rarely get threads from posters going into the Star wars Universe in the non battles thread, never have any discussion regarding non PT/TOR eras of the mythos, and battle topics seldom pass 2 pages or more.


I try! sad


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quote: (post)
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One easy improvement would be for carthage to finally get perma-banned.


I would be very upset if that happened.


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Deronn Solo
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Why?


'Cause being a full-scale troll is hard work.


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Selenial
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blow feats out of proportion, and wank their characters to the point that having a debate is impossible. They aren't out to have a discussion and compare showings against other forum members, they're out to broadcast their worship and shut down other points of view.


You know, for once, Carthage is spot on. I'm not commenting on the people he chose to talk about, but honestly the issue with this forum is how personally people take each character's strength.

Beni will never concede on Ahsoka because he thinks he has to keep some movement going.

AP will never concede on Exile/Kun because she thinks she has to keep some movement going.

Ant will never concede on Revan because he thinks he has to keep some movement going.

I'm not going to pretend like we all don't do it to some extent, but how is anyone supposed to enjoy an actual debate when no one will ever admit defeat?

I think one way of sorting it out is to finally launch the Kaggath we've been wanting to do, but I genuinely do not have the time if I'm doing a CaV vs DMB or Beni...


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Jaggarath
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I've conceded Skywalker > Revan, because the Chosen One is god manifest.


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