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All In Darkseid vs Phoenix Force

the version of Darkseid that created the absolute universe

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full power Phoenix Force


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The full Phoenix Force is beyond Darkseid.


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The full Phoenix Force is beyond Darkseid.

Is it now?


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Is it now?


Indeed wink


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Phoenix Force.

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Darkseid


Based on which feats out of interest or is this an auto response for your preferred comic company?


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Indeed wink

Based on what? Darkseid is an omniversal constant who opposes the growth of all realities in the infinite multiverseS.


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Based on what? Darkseid is an omniversal constant who opposes the growth of all realities in the infinite multiverseS.


You got any scans that actually state that?

I just want to distinguish explicit canonical fact from interpretation.

As for what I'm basing my assertions on, it's stated that the Phoenix is the primal source of Marvel creativity. It makes all that can be made and it determines what can be made. (Immortal Xmen 18)

It is in a tree of life inspired configuration with TOAA, where it transmutes TOAAs ideas from the metaphysical to the physical. (Defenders Beyond 3, Immortal Xmen 17, Jean Grey 2023 issue 4) Hence the Big Bang being an emanation (not the sum) of the Phoenix Force. (Avengers 2018 issue 43, Phoenix 2024 issue 8)


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You got any scans that actually state that?

I just want to distinguish explicit canonical fact from interpretation.

As for what I'm basing my assertions on, it's stated that the Phoenix is the primal source of Marvel creativity. It makes all that can be made and it determines what can be made. (Immortal Xmen 18)

It is in a tree of life inspired configuration with TOAA, where it transmutes TOAAs ideas from the metaphysical to the physical. (Defenders Beyond 3, Immortal Xmen 17, Jean Grey 2023 issue 4) Hence the Big Bang being an emanation (not the sum) of the Phoenix Force. (Avengers 2018 issue 43, Phoenix 2024 issue 8)


it's ironic when you said "wanting to distinguish canonical fact from interpretation“ when immediately present your fanboy interpretation of phoenix force as fact

darkseid is currently the strongest we ever see him. he ravaged heaven and hell. the absolute universe he created is outside of the omniverse
if you don't know what the opposite character is capable of, don't be so confident with your useless opinion

the evidence you are asking for is in dc all in, spoken by spectre


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Based on which feats out of interest or is this an auto response for your preferred comic company?


also this is ironic coming from you
after all we should ask
Based on which feats out of interest or is ”phoenix winzz!!!!“ an auto response for your favorite character in every single thread she's in?


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Bro where is all of this attitude coming from? Stop being such an angry guy and just exchange facts and opinions and engage in civil discussion about this medium we love. Its so weird. confused

Youre out here asserting what ive stated is fanboy interpretation when my points are actually stated explicitly on panel and corroborated by writer interview.

The WHR is the Phoenixs true form where its power is centred:

https://imgur.com/QZpvWBT

https://imgur.com/PnNf8y1

The WHR is in a Kaballah inspired tree of life configuration with the House of Ideas:

https://imgur.com/TOI3h4S

https://imgur.com/jQg79cN

https://imgur.com/2euxa2w

House of Ideas is Keter:

https://imgur.com/BLt9UrF

WHR is Tiphereth:

https://imgur.com/gl47cbU

https://imgur.com/3Y7O3Dw


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House of Ideas like its real world inspiration is about immaterial portent, meaning and idea:

https://imgur.com/SMSylUE

https://imgur.com/1YESSyV

White Hot Room is where idea becomes flesh:

https://imgur.com/yb0RVvA

https://imgur.com/PMsdiSH

The start of Marvel creativity where all thats created derives from and it determines what can be created

https://imgur.com/rAQRGko


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You got any scans that actually state that?

I just want to distinguish explicit canonical fact from interpretation.


Lol, lmao even.
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As for what I'm basing my assertions on, it's stated that the Phoenix is the primal source of Marvel creativity. It makes all that can be made and it determines what can be made. (Immortal Xmen 18)

It is in a tree of life inspired configuration with TOAA, where it transmutes TOAAs ideas from the metaphysical to the physical. (Defenders Beyond 3, Immortal Xmen 17, Jean Grey 2023 issue 4) Hence the Big Bang being an emanation (not the sum) of the Phoenix Force. (Avengers 2018 issue 43, Phoenix 2024 issue 8)


Again, pure gibberish. Bring some feats.


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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Bro where is all of this attitude coming from? Stop being such an angry guy and just exchange facts and opinions and engage in civil discussion about this medium we love. Its so weird. confused

Youre out here asserting what ive stated is fanboy interpretation when my points are actually stated explicitly on panel and corroborated by writer interview.

The WHR is the Phoenixs true form where its power is centred:

https://imgur.com/QZpvWBT

https://imgur.com/PnNf8y1

The WHR is in a Kaballah inspired tree of life configuration with the House of Ideas:

https://imgur.com/TOI3h4S

https://imgur.com/jQg79cN

https://imgur.com/2euxa2w

House of Ideas is Keter:

https://imgur.com/BLt9UrF

WHR is Tiphereth:

https://imgur.com/gl47cbU

https://imgur.com/3Y7O3Dw
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
House of Ideas like its real world inspiration is about immaterial portent, meaning and idea:

https://imgur.com/SMSylUE

https://imgur.com/1YESSyV

White Hot Room is where idea becomes flesh:

https://imgur.com/yb0RVvA

https://imgur.com/PMsdiSH

The start of Marvel creativity where all thats created derives from and it determines what can be created

https://imgur.com/rAQRGko

This isn't comicvine, honey. Try this gibberish there.


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Unfortunately for you, canonical evidence trumps empty dismissals. When you are able to present current continuity Marvel evidence that retcons what I've shown then we can talk.


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Unfortunately for you, canonical evidence trumps empty dismissals. When you are able to present current continuity Marvel evidence that retcons what I've shown then we can talk.

What's there to even dismiss? Lots of flowery language with virtually nothing to back it up?

Where are the feats of this supposed omnipotent phoenix?


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What's there to even dismiss? Lots of flowery language with virtually nothing to back it up?

Where are the feats of this supposed omnipotent phoenix?


The feats are it made and sustains creation and retains the ability to infinitely create.

What are All in Darkseids feats that places him above Marvels equivalent of the Source?

A scan talking about his role? How hypocritical lol


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