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But I never argued this 'full capability ' or whatever. Reread Astner's original comment.

I brought it in to support and strengthen my argument - having somewhat the potential to destroy the universe, we’ll that lies in the realm of his full capabilities and that is what I’m trying to subvert; by diminishing it’s supposed destructive force, introducing contradictory term and closing all perceive intricacies to that ability.

I’m making it so that coin toss up equates to 0 all the time by removing that so called Big Bang attack to the equation.


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I brought it in to support and strengthen my argument - having somewhat the potential to destroy the universe, we’ll that lies in the realm of his full capabilities and that is what I’m trying to subvert; by diminishing it’s supposed destructive force, introducing contradictory term and closing all perceive intricacies to that ability.

I’m making it so that coin toss up equates to 0 all the time by removing that so called Big Bang attack to the equation.


But even if you toss a normal coin 100,000 times and you somehow got heads every single time, the 100,001th time you have a 50/50 chance of getting tails. Or......

Another way of thinking about it, is tossing a coin and it landing on its edge.

Super unlikely, right? But it is CAPABLE of landing on its edge. Which is what I am arguing.

Firestorm is capable of destroying the universe. A coin is capable of landing on its edge. Just because both scenarios are unlikely, is moot.


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Put it this way. Your mistake is in assuming I'm saying it's a legit tactic for FS to pull off mid battle.

I am NOT saying that. When I say he's capable of doing it, I'm saying he has the ability to do it. Whether it be conscious, a one in a million freak occurrence, doesn't matter.


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Here let me put it this way, that coin your tossing is a two face! No matter how many X’s you tossed it, it’s going to land the same. That’s what I’m trying to point at by removing that Big Bang attack to FS full potential equation.

To get you to see that, you need to answer the question below.

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I get it but here’s the thing, I’m trying to undermine FS so called full capability - as in putting a false premises on that idea by showing you that we have seen the matrix full destructive force from when it went unstable and detonated in Brightest day arc and again in Forever Evil arc mention of its level of destructivity. Your in agreement of no proof of level of detonation is a result of that, I just need to somehow sway you away from your presumptuous claim - in that he still retain that capability 😆 .

Why do u think he still has full capability for universal destruction when it’s already been shown that the matrix detonated and it didn’t destroy the Universe? Remember your in agreement that there is no different level of detonation therefore the idea of partial destabilization is none existence.


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Here let me put it this way, that coin your tossing is a two face! No matter how many X’s you tossed it, it’s going to land the same. That’s what I’m trying to point at by removing that Big Bang attack to FS full potential equation.

To get you to see that, you need to answer the question below.


Actually, you have a 1 in 6000 chance that it lands on its edge.

So if you toss a coin, it's fully capable of landing on its edge. Is it PROBABLE? That's a different argument.

As long as it's a non zero chance, it's a chance. That means capable.


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Hahaha

Let’s just agree to disagree 👍


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Hahaha

Let’s just agree to disagree 👍


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Actually, you have a 1 in 6000 chance that it lands on its edge.

So if you toss a coin, it's fully capable of landing on its edge. Is it PROBABLE? That's a different argument.

As long as it's a non zero chance, it's a chance. That means capable.


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Put it this way. Your mistake is in assuming I'm saying it's a legit tactic for FS to pull off mid battle.

I am NOT saying that. When I say he's capable of doing it, I'm saying he has the ability to do it. Whether it be conscious, a one in a million freak occurrence, doesn't matter.
Is it unreasonable to suggest that if it's a one in a million freak occurrence in comics, then it has a one in a million chance of being relevant to this versus thread?


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It is indeed unreasonable.

Because I was responding to a specific point made by Astner, which implied even that one in a million chance did not exist.


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^ Unless Astner disagrees, I acknowledge and apologize for coming into the a$$-end of a conversation I wasn't involved in with my random opinion.


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