Perot wasn't Elon, but even after his showing both Dems and Rep shifted on a couple of issues. That's what they do when lots of 3rd party energy starts building in the populace to make people feel like the parties are trying to move in a better direction. What's more, there's a good chance Elon won't run himself because no one in congress will actually change the law about non natural citizens running for President when they know it'd be to support Elon running in a 3rd party. That means he'll chose someone else to run, and will likely keep the party going just to spite folks even beyond the first election.
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Trump's not disrupting the system, he's part of it, he's a Republican who is making the wealth gap in America even greater with more tax cuts to the wealthiest people while making the working/middle-class pay for it. Reagan did the same.
He was supposed to be the anti-war anti-interventionist, anti-Middle East meddler, and how did that work out? He tried to start a war with Iran.
White House has come under fire for not releasing documents related to late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein
Republican lawmakers have moved to block a Democratic effort to force the release of the so-called Epstein files, a near-mythological trove of undisclosed information about the convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein at the center of an internal political war among US conservatives. -snip
"releasing the Epstein list is bad now"
-Dumb cuck trumper cultist NPC brainless spineless phaggots
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That's just while Trump is an office because Trump's a serial cheater, been married three times, his current wife can't stand to be next to him and he swears. Once he's out, they'll pretend to care again with their pretend morals. But even then, that's a minor disruption.
They can absolutely pretend to go back, but they've already lost that talking point with independents, the can't unring the bell. And even if literally nothing changes in either party, I'm not actually out a thing cause Hilary and Kamala damn sure wasn't going to change anything either with the possible exception of getting rid of the first and second amendments.
Neither Clinton nor Harris would have taken away constitutional rights. Meanwhile Trump is literally trying to to take away birth right citizenship, which is in the constitution, like he did away with Roe v Wade, and you're cool with it. You people are hilariously demented.
The Dems have absolutely been trying to limit free speech for over a decade(tbf though, Reps started that under Bush the sequal) and been b*tching about guns for far longer.
Roe v Wade was BS from the get go. I'm personally pro choice but such things are best left to the states. And birthright citizenship.... yeah I'm not really a fan of ending that. But I also wasn't a fan of Biden's virtual open door policy so meh.
You're talking out of your ass, meanwhile Trump is the one attacking free speech by suing and using the weight of the Presidential office to silence news agencies who say unflattering things about him. He's also using the weight of his office to fleece companies into paying him millions directly.
No, R v W was not BS, as we've seen some states ruling that women don't have agency over their own bodies.
So you're not a fan of Trump undoing this outright unconstitutional move, but meh, Biden did this made up thing so it's okay. The border was never open and unsecured under Biden, that's just a bullshit ragebait talking point.
Are you saying there haven't been clamoring from the left to restrict free speech in the form of pronouns or put restrictions on guns? If there has I'm not talking out of my ass.
It absolutely was BS. What it means to be human and the point at which humanity is recognized is a defining characteristic for pretty much every society. Nothing like that should ever be determined by a group of people no citizen ever voted for. It's absolutely something that should be determined at the state level, not the federal level in a way that can't be circumvented by the common citizen. While I'm personally pro choice, I recognize the reasoning for those who aren't, and those people deserve to have their voices heard as much as anyone rather than be dismissed out of hand because of a nonsensical Supreme Court ruling
Didn't say it was OK, I said it didn't matter because neither person running planned on doing what I wanted on the matter. I get that you're seemingly ok with incompetence and corruption as long as it's coming from the democrats because you refuse to believe they could be as bad as the Republicans, but I've been watching both as an independent for pretty much my whole life and I've seen plenty from both sides. They're like a photo and it's negative, so seemingly the opposite of each other that they're actually the exact same image but reversed. They're like Coke and Pepsi or Visa and Mastercard, rivals on the surface but actually working hand in hand to ensure that only two real options are accepted by the majority of the population.
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Roe v. Wade established that the Right to Privacy guaranteed by the 14th Amendment covers medical procedures. It means that the government does not have a right to know which medical procedures you have, including abortion. Yet, here you are, celebrating losing your right to medical privacy, because you think Roe v. Wade is "just some b.s." Congratulations, retard, you just played yourself in order to own libs.
"Enlightened centrists" are neither enlightened or centrists. They are politically-ignorant conservatives who want to vote for Republicans without claiming the Republican affiliation, so they do not have to be accountable for the actions of the Republicans they elect. Case in point, you have all the heat for Democrats, but when challenged why you do not have the same energy for Republicans, you retreat to "both parties are the same." You are just a coward, throwing a stone, and hiding your hand.
Them not being successful doesn't change their intent. Are you denying those being democrat talking points though?
It was written out poorly and made it impossible to ban abortion.
Nope if you look above I specifically mentioned that censoring free speech started with Bush the sequel. And my seeming heat for the Dems stems primarily from the fact that he's not a more active part of the conversation because I have no problem pointing at him as the singular, worst President I have personal knowledge of. The Patriot Act was the worst piece of legislation ever passed by our government, beyond even the provision that recognized blacks as 3/5s of a person. And even beyond him, the only Republican President in the last 50 years I have genuine respect for is the original George Bush, and that's only because when push came to shove he raised taxes when the country needed it after promising not to which alienated his base and tanked his chance at getting re-elected.
The fact that I think the Dems are a nest of vipers doesn't mean I think the Reps are harmless grass snakes by comparison.
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You made the claim about Democrats, you've yet to site any examples. Meanwhile I gave you examples of Trump taking away people's rights and using the office of the POTUS to suppress free speech he doesn't like.
Examples of what, them trying to take away rights? Are you denying them ranting against the second Amendment? If you need an example of them acting on it you can look at the assault weapon ban.
Yes. eg Your claims that Democrats stopped or tried to stop free speech.
The assault weapon ban was a very few and select ban on guns. People were still allowed to have 99% of the guns out there, while you're acting like all guns were taken away. But here's the important part: You're also conveniently ignoring that the ban had bipartisan support in congress.
I've already told you he's targeting news agencies that say unflattering (ie the truth) things about him and using the office of the POTUS to do it. But something, something democrats.
No, you clearly did, as you only blamed Democrats for the assault weapon ban, when it was bipartisan.
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