anyhoo I was thinking more like seeing as Morgoth being the ultimate opponent that the 3 of them would whipe him out first...
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Eomar Vs Boromir : Boromir (against anyone for future ref.)
Eagles Vs Fell Beasts: well i guess the eagles, since they do!
Smeagol(actual, not mutated) Vs Grima Wormtongue: 2KO
also, Morgoth Vs Sauron Vs Witchking Vs Gandalf?: no guesses, everyman for himself, get the popcorn.
Bill Ferny vs Barliman Butterbur: Bill is mean and barliman would forget he was fighting.
Gaffer Gamgee vs Ted Sandyman: Gaffer, 'cause he got the name from beating people up untill they needed gaffer tape to hold their face together.
The Watcher in the water vs Shelob: Shelob is the daughter of an Ainur and has poison, and i know very little about the watcher, also shelob would be afraid of water so who knows...
Rosie Cotton vs Lobelia (Sackville) Baggins: Lobelia is a cow and would stab rosie with the many pieces of cutlery she stole from bagend!!!
Feanor vs Sauron: Feanor, Sauron is more powerful, but feanors temper scared morgoth, I honestly believe that if he made it to him and feanor not fingolfin fought morgoth, feanor would have one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arwen vs Eowen (Naked Jelly/jello wrestling): I would just prey it goes the distance...
Sauron: gandalf go and kill morgoth
gandalf: i cant...hes too strong for me
sauron: you can man...just try....
Witchy: dont go lover....
Gandalf: what if i were to die sauron i couldnt leave witchy with our three kids
Sauron: FINE!!!! witchking you go
Witchy: oh damn *goes* (cant resist saurons will)
melkor: prepare to die
Witchy: No man can kill me
melkor: *Stamp* im no man im melkor
witchy: dies
Gandalf: NOOOOOO! *runs an attacks melkor*
melkor: *whack*
gandalf *dies....spirit goes to valinor* hello there Mr. Tulkas...Melkor Is Being A dick
Tulkas: hahahahahahaha
melkor: whats that,,,,,,,oh shit not AGAIN *cries*
*whack*
Melkor: back to the void
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Well for one, Galadriel is a pretty powerful Noldor to begin with. Tolkien doesn't get into too much detail about this but mentions it enouigh to solidly establish her as pretty tough girl. + She has a ring of power, making her even more powerful. I think Ungoliant would be a feirce foe whom gadriel would cut to peices. I don't think she wold get her fangs into the little elf, so her dreaded poision big ol melkor feared would not effect her in that way, maybe she would spit the pioson on the ground and stuff, but won't be something Galadriel would have to worry too much about. Oh, and about Turin, the thing is, Turin killed himself, we all know that, but if he hadn't, and if he fought the witch king instead, then GLorfindels prophecy would have never been made. See
You're talking like Galadriel is the toughest person in Middle-earth. Yes, she's powerful internally and spiritually, but she's no Xena. Yes, she has her own will power and pretty tough at that(choosing to remain with her brother and Feanor, etc. at the Great Rebellion instead of following her father back to Tirion), but she's not a warrior type of woman. I don't remember Galadriel EVER fighting physically, so saying that Galadriel will cut Ungoliant to pieces is nothing but a ridiculous exaggeration. Yes, she has a Ring of Power, but the Elven Rings of Power aren't really used for fighting physically. They are used for healing physically and internally. They are used for a deeper wisdom and motivation to those people close to the one who wear the Rings, they are used for the preservation of things and territories held by the Ring-bearer. The Rings aren't mutant powers. They aren't Popeye's spinach. They aren't immunization vaccines to actually disable the effects of Ungoliant's poisons, to the point where Galadriel would spit the poison on the ground (totally out of character, by the way).
If your argument is that she's a Noldor and she's a Ringbearer, you could also ask why Gil-galad was killed by Sauron in the War of the Last Alliance. Hey! He's a Noldor and a Ringbearer too (though he didn't actually had the Ring that time, but still, same case)
And, are you actually underestimating the creature that even Morgoth feared?
Actually, if we're going to mere technicality, Ungoliant is an Ainu (we're not really sure if she's a Maia or whatever but she definitely came from something) so she's an Ainu who chose to have a spider body. Galadriel is only an Elf, and saying that an Elf would win over an Ainu without any difficulty is unbelievable. Sure Glorfindel and Echthelion fought and slew Balrogs, but they also died in the process. Even Gandalf who was already a Maia died. Sure Balrogs and Ungoliant are different creatures, but just a comparison.
I wouldn't question Turin's skill and excellence in battle, since we all know that he's great at that. The only issue that we have to deal with on this is....
"Turin will only have the chance to win if he has a Westernesse blade with him, or if he destroyed the Ring of Power."
If he doesn't have a Westernesse blade with him or if he didn't destroyed the One Ring, then too bad. The Witch King will NEVER die in his hands. Turin will only tire himself to the point where Wiki will be the one to kill him.
May it be a woman, or a Man, or an Elf, or a kid, or a Hobbit, it doesn't matter. You just have to have a Westernesse blade with you to be able to kill Wiki "physically".
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