i just have one question for the "genuine" source, what the hell is under grievous' mask?
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OK OK Soory ive been a way for a while, Right everyone wants to know my source well its someone called Dark_Knight37 he has told me lots of stuff about eppi 3 and even eppi 2 before it came out and the info provided has always been about 90% accurate. I dont expect peolpe to belive me but i was just doing all you star wars fans a favor and telling you the stuff that im allowed for now..
And one more thing, About the sifo dyse comment, What if i told you 10 years before AOTC doocku asks his former padawan qui-gon for the favor that is owed, And qui-gon had to say yes???????
And now doocku is very upset because he never got to tell him what he knows before he died and blames himself for knowing about the sith and not warning qui-gon..and the rest they say is History.
So I take it, from your unnamed source, that we can take it as read that Qui-Gon is Sifo Dyas.
Would the explanation be then that only non Dark Jedi's can come back as Force Ghosts - or if they have been redeemed from the Dark Side aka Anakin, and something will happen which will redeem Qui-Gon?
And whats all this about the Mechanical Vader fight? Will it be Sidious or Anakin who fights Yoda?
okay- if Sifo Dyas ended up being qui-gon, that would be sweet!, qui-gon doesnt show up as a force ghost, but i've heard rumors, that they need his voice again, though, what you'all think
I could see Qui-Gon being Sifo Dyas, especially since I recall Qui-Gon being noted for his independence and willingness to act without the council's approval in TPM.
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I especially believe Qui-Gon is Sifo Dyas. Obi-Wan says in AOTC that Sifo Dyas was killed almost 10 years ago" right when Qui-Gon died. Then Obi-Wan says, "Tell me prime minister, when MY MASTER first contacted you, did he say who the army was for?"
Though that could be wrong though, because Obi-Wan calls Yoda "Master" as well. They call anyone who is higher up then them "Master", but it was just a connection made about Obi-Wan saying that. Again, it could have nothing to do with it.
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Qui-gon can't be, SD, that would make it pretty stupid. If I remember correctly, in Hier to the Empire, there was a Jedi who was cloned before the Clone Wars, and was killed, but later his clone showed up after Ep VI, and Sifo Dyas rings a bell, maybe that's who it was? If so, there's no way possible that Qui-gon Jinn is SD. Did anyone else read Hier? Am I remembering that correctly?
Question: If we are making assumptions on who SifO Dyas can be? what about Palpatine, himself, I know, I know, its not exciting but this person obviously had the finances to pay for the entire clone army in advance ( there was no mention of the cloners being visited inbetween, and no mention of payment owing to them for the army when 0B visited them). being a senator he must have had the resources. Other than that , if it were Qui Gon, it would tie things together, as I would like to have seen him make an appearance before this trilogy ended. Kinda like how OB1 made those apearances ( if only in ghos form) in the Original trilogy
Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The reason they come back as ghosts is this..
When you are going to die or before you have to meditate and become one with the force therfore you can become one with the living force, The reason qui gon didnt vanish is that he didnt no the complete way to transfer his whole body thats why you can only hear him and not see him and with obi-wan and yoda they learn the complete way from qui gon in eppi 3 so they can completely become one with the force,, Sorry if you dont get it but im in a rush... BYE
yeah, ok, and I see we have to KEEP saying that it's NOT A KNOWN TRICK
seriously, I want to copy the explanation so next time I just have to past it cause it's tiring.
Vader did not know what happened when OB1 vanished, that means it is not known to the jedi and it is new (as GL also says in the EpI dvd commentary)
it's not about meditating or whatever
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mmk, its pretty obvious that Palpatine had the clones ordered, but he didn't do it in person. Palpatine is smart enough not to do anything he could be busted for, thats what all his underlings are for.
Genuine info or not, it makes sense to me.
Palpatine tells Dooku to order the army. He wants Dooku, his new apprentice to do it, since Dooku has ties to the Jedi. As far as the Jedi are concerned, Dooku's not evil, he's just confused or something, definitely not a threat. Palpatine wants the Jedi to order the army so he has something to blame them on later. Remember, he's going to turn on the Jedi when the time is right, so the more dirt he has on them the better. Dooku asks Qui-Gon to order the army secretly, probably telling whatever lie Qui-Gon needs to hear to think its for the greater good. Its possible that Dooku even told Qui-Gon to use the name Sifo-Dyas...though for what reason I don't know.
Sifo-Dyas sounds like Sidious...maybe it was a Sith Joke. That sounds like Lucas' style. Hmm...I have to figure this out.
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I think it was Father Christmas. Think about it. He zooms in orders a clone army of elves to help him with his present making but Sidious hears of the transaction and using the force tricks the Kimonans into creating a millitary army of clones instead.
Sounds good to me, Father christmas is a rich old boy, must be to make millions of childrens toys in a huge factory in a secret base at the North pole and he makes NO profit out of it. Must have a few bob in the bank to pay for all that so he can pay for an entire clone army just like that.
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