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Do people deserve Democracy?
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shaber
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yes and the emperors were such a lovely lot, especially the Caesar household roll eyes (sarcastic) <<"would you like to be a little minnow?" eek! >>

If the many were as bad as the Inner Party in 1984, then maybe, but a system whereby just some of the population have ALL the power is in every instance worse than one where power is at low levels.


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Caesar did amongst other a great job of ruling the roman empire

so did Octavianus and above all Sulla and they were all appointed tyrrans.


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only some people deserve liberty those that do evil to other deserve no human rights. And those that deserve should only have limited demococy


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I do.
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lol snakehead what do you define as evil?


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quote:
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lol snakehead what do you define as evil?




causing pain or destrucing to others


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their was a huge bombng yesterday and many other voilent actions in that country. they cant handle the freedom. the iron fist type system they had in place probably worked best. because the divsions of islam have violent views against each other. iraq is the new west bank. their will be violence their fo are kids to deal with and their kids etc. so no some dont deserve democracy.


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so inherently to that all soldiers are evil snakehead?

what kind of opinion is that bardock:

just because their country is in the ban of terror they should not be allowed to live in peace and enjoy freedom?


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i see where you're ging and i do agree with you. though that is not generally applyable. take china for example...would you eliminate communism there?

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the chinese are hardly what you can call hardcore communists dexx


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indeed...but would you allow them a truly democratic system?

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quote:
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so inherently to that all soldiers are evil snakehead?

what kind of opinion is that bardock:

just because their country is in the ban of terror they should not be allowed to live in peace and enjoy freedom?




no, causeing harm FOR SELF GAIN is evil not defending someones country.


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quote:
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the chinese are hardly what you can call hardcore communists dexx




communism is a failed system


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yes..because it wasn't applied correctly. at it's basics..it's hardly a terror domination like most think..

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Democracy is not for all messed

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Snake you didnt say for self gain the first time
now I can agree wiv you a tad more still not entirely tho.

To quote Homer J. Simpson "Communism works in theory, in theory."

I don't think man kind is ready for the ideas of communism dexx, and snake we have hardly seen any real communism put to the test. the russians first had Leninism followed by Stalinism (yes there is a difference) and the Chinese have or better had Maoism


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Stalin and Mao Tse Tung were psychopaths. It is well known that their systems were no more than very efficient methods of oppression.


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Ash> “I have been doing a lot of thinking lately, basically because it is one of the few things i do well.” I always get sceptical when people claim to be extraordinarily good at something they obviously themselves think is an advantage.
So what WERE you thoughts on the matter?

Raven> “direct democracy leads to anarchy and tyranny when implemented on large scale.” Why do you think that is the case?

Indirect democracy can hardly BE called democracy. Ask yourself this: What can you really and truly influence in your country?
Why is it that democracy is the best form of government?


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quote:
Originally posted by Fire
Caesar did amongst other a great job of ruling the roman empire

so did Octavianus and above all Sulla and they were all appointed tyrrans.


Nero was the best! big grin laughing


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TO: I believe that Democracy is the best form of government ATM because it puts you more in charge of your own destiniy than others.
Ideally Anarcy is the best form of Government. But the concept of idealism is impossible so Pure Anarcy is impossible.


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