The Shi'Ar's have nukes that can take out half the Kree empire. Furthermore, they're a galaxy size empire. Most GL's are nobodies. There's only a handful of GL's that are worth anything. And same goes for the Imperial Guard. So it'll be nobodies fighting nobodies, fighting the entire Shi'Ar armada with nukes to take out half a Kree empire. The Shi'Ar have the numbers and the tech's to put down the Corps.
if the GL's get parralax then shi'ar get phoenix (the actual phoenix, not jean grey) and the two completely indestructable gurdians of the M'kraan (or however it's spelled) crystal, they also have extremely advanced tech, some telepaths, the imperial guard, hundreds (if not thousands) of powerful warships and whatever super people live on the worlds they control
it'd be a good (if galacticly) destructive battle........... but i think th shi'ar would win
The Shi'ar Empire takes this without much effort. They just have Oracle read someone's mind and find out what their weakness is. Assuming there isn't a Home Depot on any of the plantes in the entire Shi'ar empire, then they send Gladiator to earth for some yellow paint or a yellow jumpsuit and then he comes back and beats the hell out of all of them all except Kyle (because his ring doesn't have the yellow flaw); and if Kyle is still in the fight by that time there is no way he'll last against the rest of the empire.
(I'm shocked that I was the first to think of this... shame on you all! lol)
The Shiar would win. They are among the most advanced alien race know in MU. GL corp would finally exhaust all of their powers just fighting off the hords of shiar soldiers and armada fleet warships. It would be a slaughter
You brought up Parallax vs the Phoenix force.
Ok, let's have a go.
The Phoenix entity can cause the destruction of an entire galaxy. That is serious power, no doubt! But let us see what out pal Parallax can do!
Parallax has destroyed the entire Universe (not galaxy, universe); and not only content with that, decided to remake it using his will alone.
The Phoenix force is totally out of her league here (and against Ion, basically Kyle Ryner's version of Hal Jordan's Parallax) she is also an insignificant flea.
Seriously, the unleashed power of Oa, all of it, would obliterate everything and anything the Shiar could come up with. Even if they could manage to get the Phoenix force (which is debatable) on their side.
The only way the GLs would lose is if they are caught with their pants down. Have the entire GL corp versus the entire Shiar empire, and the GLs would win.
You could even resurrect the Skrull empire, and add the Krees as well, to the Shiar, and they would still be as easily destroyed by the GLs (if all of them are present, and the question stated the Entire GL corps).
Green Lanterns win, while the Guardians of Oa watch this from some far flung galaxy while munching on some popcorn.
Actually all it would take was one competent GL and thousands of utterly useless GLs - as long as the incompetents have their power rings the one great GL can channel that force into an awesome power. Remember when Kyle made replica power rings and sold them to the entire American population for a dollar a piece? The people were happy, and since they were so cheap they sold like hot cakes (and people were flying about and doing all sorts of things). The reason the GL did this was so as to use the collective power of all those people, through the rings, against some apocalyptic force that was going to threaten the earth, and it worked.
Hence, all it would take is one GL who knows what the heck he or she is doing, and thousands of warm bodies with at least some level of minor intelligence and a power ring each.
The Shiar would fall just as hard (since that one GL, focusing the power of all those rings, would have the power of an Ion and/or Parallax).
Shiar falls.
IMO its fairly obvious how this would turn out. the fact that more than likely it would be the Shi'ar who are gonna be the aggressors on this one.
the gl corps are gonna be minding thier own business and the shiar are gonna want OA as a part of thier empire. what that means is just like what always happens when the GLs are dealing with threats on a Galactic scale while thier trying to neutralize the threat they also will be catering to all the innocent bystanders that get caught in the mix. its this distraction that would reult in them being ground to dust mostly by gladiator himself.
also, there are only 3500 gls. one in each galaxy, or was it solar system? either way they lose. it would be all drawn out and dramatic but if it is them against the ENTIRE empire, the shiar would eventually triumph. especially since the corps isnt gonna get any outside assistance from the likes of the guardians or JLA
I think the actual number of superpowred ShiAr in the Imperial Guard numbers as many as Earth heroes. I think the ones we're most familiar with (Smasher, Oracle, Avalanche, Tempest... etc) is just one team.
You mean Parallax after absorbing the energies from PreCrisis? Having your own power to recreate a universe is different from using Crisis energy to amp and assist you. Phoenix is the embodiment of life force unborn. Stars faded when she tapped into this power, the universe was dying and this was under her own might.
Can Phoenix destroy the universe? Well, she can fade out the universe's stars, thus killing them. So guess what happens to the universe when its stars die out? Can she create a new universe? Hmmm, is she not the embodiment of life/life unborned? The Phoenix does rish from the ashes does it not? I don't see why she isn't able to create stars. It's not exactly creating the entire universe, but she's still doing this under her own might.
And before you bring up Parallax's powers, he sacrificed himself to destroy the Sun Eater. That wouldn't be needed if he truly was powerful and could create a universe.
And I don't see why we're bringing in higher beings. It's not like Parallax is going to join the Corp or that Kyle could just become Ion any time he wants or that the Phoenix would come to the Shi'Ar's aid.
With that said, 3,600 GL's Vs. Gladiator/Binary/Imperial Guard/Galaxy wide empire/advance tech/armadas of star ships
Again I say, most of these 3,600 GLs are nothing but cannon fodders.
Last edited by Beyonder on Feb 20th, 2005 at 08:31 PM
Is there any reason why you would assume this? How many GLs have you seem in comics? I just dont get his. How may of the Shi'ar Imperial guard are weak? The only one who is worth a crap is Gladiator. The weakes GL could take out the no. 2 guardsmen.
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Your average GL has done what now? There's only a handful of them that's worth much when impending doom emerges. If most were much, they wouldn't have stupidly engaged Apokolips and get crusafied the way they did. Nothing but cannon fodders. Experienced and powerful?
How can we know what the other GLs do. The only ones we hear about are the earth bound ones and few others. I guess your just assuming that they are all weak. Comparing Darkseid is like comparing Thanos. Thanos made all of Marvels heros out to be fairies including Surfer and Thor. Do poeple go around saying Surfer is cannon fodder cause he and Thor got bitchslapped by Thanos. Probably not.
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the only gls that are wotrh a damn arenot in any particular order)
john stewart
kyle
hal
kilowog
the planet(forgot its name)
john stewarts ex(forgot her name)
the squirrel
the six armed one
the one thats a huge head with arms and legs
that griffin falcon-ie looking one
and the one that has that cool v-shaped mask and he seems to have fangs.
whenever anything comes up these are the ones they pushh up in the picture. no matter what. be it apperances in comics, justice league episodes. they even had a cameo in Duck Dodgers on cartoon network. then they say ."oh its 3000 of us out there"
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