Do you think there are things which are unexplainable by the use of language?

Started by Symmetric Chaos2 pages
Originally posted by Mindship
Yes, but I can't explain why.

Nice one

Language is made only to express certain concepts. It is in theory possible to construct a language that can express things that cannot be expressed with any language on Earth. Unfortunately such a language would be impractical in the real world.

So I guess my answer is that anything can be expressed though language just not the ones we use.

Re: Do you think there are things which are unexplainable by the use of language?

Originally posted by Mindship
Yes, but I can't explain why.

I was thinking about saying something like that, but I didn't want to come across as a smart ass. 😉 Good job. jk

I think it was Leibniz who believed that all truths have a reason or explanation of why they are truths, but perhaps there are true facts within our universe that cannot be expressed or explained.

This is true in math and has been proved(with the mathematical imcompleteness theorem by Kurt Gödel). There are mathematical truths(i. e. theorems) that cannot be proven but they are very real.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was thinking about saying something like that, but I didn't want to come across as a smart ass.
Language is but driftwood upon which we cling in the deep, open ocean of reality. 💃

Originally posted by Mindship
Language is but driftwood upon which we cling in the deep, open ocean of reality. 💃

You are so... I'm lost for words. 😛 😆

Re: Do you think there are things which are unexplainable by the use of language?

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Do you think there is things which cannot be explained by a language(I mean, things which cannot be writen as a set of sentences) like if anyone tryies to explain it, he will always need to be more detailed about that(writing more sentences) to express its full meaning, in a way our explanation will never be completely right, like if we would be always missing something ?

Or maybe something like that which cannot be expressed by a language, or a set of sentences, is the same to say that this thing doesn´t exist ?

Ok... I have some mathematical analogies for that:

like irrational numbers for example pi, e, phi, etc.... those are numbers that are infinite, you cannot write them matemathically, just make aproximations, like 3,14(particularly Pitagoras didn´t like the the concept of irracional numbers... for him they looked somewhat "unreal", because they could not be expressed entirely).

another example is the concept of infinite used in mathematics, when something goes up to infinite, its because it cannot be expressed in a limited number of sentences

0!( which is = 1) can be only defined as a sum of a infinite number of terms.

A non-mathematical example would be concepts like nothingness I think... since we cannot express it, God too I think.... or any too metaphysical concepts.

You need girlfriend...... 🙄

j/k

But fortunately we have telepathy.......No more problem here.

Re: Re: Do you think there are things which are unexplainable by the use of language?

Originally posted by debbiejo
You need girlfriend...... 🙄

j/k

But fortunately we have telepathy.......No more problem here.

Well... telepathy is useful when things cannot be expressed by language !

Maybe if we used all of our brain then we would be able to express some inexpressible concepts with language.

We use our entire brain.

Originally posted by Storm
We use our entire brain.

[insert sarcastic comment here]

😱

Of course there are things that are unexplainable! Try, for example, explaining, Oh I dunno... the color pink to someone who is blind; Describe God, assuming one believes in him/her; Paint a picture of gravity... ok, ok, that's sublimely ridiculous, but one gets the picture.

Originally posted by Laurie
Of course there are things that are unexplainable! Try, for example, explaining, Oh I dunno... the color pink to someone who is blind; Describe God, assuming one believes in him/her.

Technically those are limitations of the speaker or listener not of language itself.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Technically those are limitations of the speaker or listener not of language itself.

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