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roughrider
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Rune King Thor is monstrously powerful with his magic, but is he still below The Living Tribunal? Tribunal would be Spectre's Marvel equivelent. If he is, he will ultimately lose to Spectre - if he can act without permission.


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Rune King Thor is monstrously powerful with his magic, but is he still below The Living Tribunal? Tribunal would be Spectre's Marvel equivelent. If he is, he will ultimately lose to Spectre - if he can act without permission.


I somewhat disagree. Spectre could be as powerful as LT. He gets his power from God(Presence) If the Spectre gets his permission, then he can be LT's equivalent. If no permission, he's basically just a fallen angel.


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I somewhat disagree. Spectre could be as powerful as LT. He gets his power from God(Presence) If the Spectre gets his permission, then he can be LT's equivalent. If no permission, he's basically just a fallen angel.
He's done all of DOV without permission as it's a known rule that Micheal himself in the name of God said to the Spectre when he tried to destroy existance after Jesus' death.... that the Spectre cannot be on the mortal plane without a host.

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Also Spectre is a piece of God, not powered by it.. It's called THE LOGOZ... When the Spectre fails it's because the Spectre Force itself-- even while the host having access to vast powers--- isnt giving you the power neccessary to accomplish the desired task.


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No Presence very small chance at winning.

With the Presence, Spectre wins 11 times out of 10. smile


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No Presence very small chance at winning.

With the Presence, Spectre wins 11 times out of 10. smile


Agreed. smile


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Atum would own RKT it isn't even funny.

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Odin is actually afraid to challenge Darksied when he's at full power, Spectre[Hal] waved a hand and erased him from existence... then realised he's a part of the universe, then recreated him.

That's DC odin who is a pu$$y compare to Marvel Odin who is way above Darkseid in every way.

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Atum would own RKT it isn't even funny.



Not really they would be even in power. Rune King Thor would be above the other elder gods including his mother Gaea.

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That's DC odin who is a pu$$y compare to Marvel Odin who is way above Darkseid in every way.
Odin is far above Galactus? That's what Darkseid is.

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Except for that he's written that way!

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Odin is far above Galactus? That's what Darkseid is.



Darkseid got his a$$ kicked by Galactus in the Hunger read it. Odin can be just as powerful as Galactus, Odin can absorb all of the llife force of asgard and the nine worlds into himself and beyond Darkseid in every way. Our Odin smites him, Odin in his world he is God.

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Darkseid is not even in the same league as Galactus at all, omega beam didn't do sh** to Galactus except pissing him off. Even Odin is above Darkseid in power and every way, Odin powers and ability dwarfs darkseids.

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Darkseid got his a$$ kicked by Galactus in the Hunger read it. Odin can be just as powerful as Galactus, Odin can absorb all of the llife force of asgard and the nine worlds into himself and beyond Darkseid in every way. Our Odin smites him, Odin in his world he is God.
Read it...He got blasted, and got up and almost erased Galactus from existance, as you'll notice he went immaterial then reformed. Darkseid was telling him how he was weak and Galactus said "Your power is great master of Apocalypse, but if you think you see flaw in Galactus.." bla bla. He also took down Surfer in one shot. Besides, it's not a canon comic.

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Darkseid is not even in the same league as Galactus at all, omega beam didn't do sh** to Galactus except pissing him off. Even Odin is above Darkseid in power and every way, Odin powers and ability dwarfs darkseids.
Darkseid has different power levels as well, as described in Hunter Prey after battling Doomsday and surviving the tale, he told Superman who was in disbelief that he could be harmed at all, that he was a low moment in power.

When the Spectre tried to erase Darkseid from the universe, he found that Darksied is a universal constant that HAS to exist, and that his real form is something beyond the normal boundaries of the universe.

And Darkseids higher showings? Look at "Pre Crisis Darkseid" even though it's the same guy, since he avoided the re-write, melding his original timeline with the current one when it was being formed.

If that's not Galactus . .. I'll be damned.

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Well you are damn. All most my black a$$, Omega beams affectwork on lower level beings like superman, orion, wonder woman etc. Galactus is above Darkseid, and cannot die by no omega beam affect, Galactus is essential to universe he is a cosmic force and where Darkseid isn't.

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Well you are damn. All most my black a$$, Omega beams affectwork on lower level beings like superman, orion, wonder woman etc. Galactus is above Darkseid, and cannot die by no omega beam affect, Galactus is essential to universe he is a cosmic force and where Darkseid isn't.
YES HE IS. HE IS PART OF THE UNIVERSE.


Do I need to repeat myself again!?
When the Spectre tried to erase Darkseid from the universe, he found that Darksied is a universal constant that HAS to exist, and that his real form is something beyond the normal boundaries of the universe.

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THE SPECTRE #19 - freedom and its horrors

I was a tremendous fan of John Ostrander's work on the previous Spectre series, so I was glad to welcome him back, particularly with a story as morally complex and psychologically interesting as "The Equations of Light and Darkness."
The idea that Darkseid is a necessary evil, a balancing force in the cosmos has been suggested many times before, but rarely has Darkseid's position been so well elucidated. That he cannot allow hope to exist in any form on Apokolips makes sense, of course, but the part I found truly fascinating was the way in which he twisted what would otherwise be considered an act of mercy and forgiveness toward the girl, Anomalie, into what seemed through his eyes a fate worse than death. The phrase "freedom and all its horrors" was a chilling exclamation point in regard to Darkseid's views about our "squalid planet."
It was also a nice reversal to have Anomalie's ability to create such extraordinary beauty be the reason she felt so useless in Darkseid's ugly world. I thought it a bit depressing, however, showing only the "dark side" of her life on Earth -- a life where we humans appear no more accepting of her gift than those on Apokolips. I hope that this was merely Darkseid's version of her future -- all struggle and no reward -- but I would've preferred a more positive statement by Hal to refute those images on page 21, something to tip the scales on the side of personal achievement, rather than leaving us with the notion that the universe makes us all feel small and powerless


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Not really they would be even in power. Rune King Thor would be above the other elder gods including his mother Gaea.


I dont see RKT beating 2 elder gods and other demons at the same time and also beating all the Hell gods in their dimensions at the same time without much effort. Galactus couldnt even beat mephisto in his own realm.

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