You're not comprehending. He always absorbed and stored energy, now he can draw it in himself as quick as it's being spent. Absorbing from his body still doesn't cut him off from power, he could just draw it in as fast or faster than it's being drawn from him.
In all of his issues the last few months, starting probably right before "BURN!!!" in his first fight with blackrock, they've been redefining his powers, or rather explaining them...Specifically in his fights with Ruin.. They said Superman draws from Solar energy, and his strength boosts he gets to accomplish nearly any job are because when he stresses, when he needs something done, he begins SUCKING energy from the sun to accomodate his needs.
In Adventures of Superman 645, Ruin specifically says Superman is killing/absorbing the sun itself.
Oh, so now we're arguing on if someone can completely stem energy from Superman altogether? A moment ago it was a discussion on DRAINING Superman, but seeing as that failed you, you need something new to argue so I suppose we can discuss on if someone whos power is to absorb energy can be stemmed from his flow... which I might add, has neither been done, nor stopped to/by Superman, as this aspect of his power is relatively new and no one's tried it. The implications are interesting enough...
The old feats however, were them drawing directly from his cells, not stemming his flow.
Yes it IS a change in his powers, or did you not read the old school Man of Steel comics they explained his powers?
What good is DRAINING going to do, when he can just ABSORB it faster? And technically, absorbing energy, from a person who's power is to absorb energy, is kinda stupid concept to begin with.
And Triumph absorbing his energy was back in 94, that's far far from current.
What's the latest time? Issue number?
And the faster part doesn't make sense to you?
Let's consider for example.. strawberries on a plate...
I have 10 strawberries on a plate...
Now you take what I have piece by piece...
[As even the energy controlling characters can't and never have just instantly drain/ed Superman.]
And then I'll backup a pickup truck to the plate and drop a 1000lbs of strawberries onto the plate. And then run to the next truck.
Now you keep going.
The only way to stop this would be to ebb the flow of energy...
But, it's never been done and never been proven that this could happen.
Since this is new to his powerset.
Again, what's that issue where they drain him recently?
Where does it say it would take him 4.9 billion years to absorb it?
Just because he hasn't..?
Living Tribunal hasn't defeated Electra in a swordfight either.
And for that matter, it doesn't even say anything about 4.9 billion years in correlation to the sun. It says Superman will "destroy EVERYTHING" in that time.. See the difference? Absorb energy and destroy everything?
I'm not saying Superman can win this fight, because it'd be a longshot if he could.. I'm just saying, draining him doesn't seem like an option. Which is what I've said from the beginning.
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Stop of energy flow? Did you not read the battle btw Polaris and Superman?
Polaris stops the solar flow. ( and Polaris just has powers of magnetism similar to Magneto)
Genis can do that in much greater extent.
As for you pick a plate of Strawberries, but when you have guys who can eat all the strawberry in moments(that leaves nothing for Superman) the same process will take 4.9 billion years for Superman meaning it takes that long for Superman to absorb all.
Same feats can be done in moments by most cosmic like Quasar.
And again Genis can easily teleport Superman to the Microverse and do that jacking of energy there where all solar energy source can be blocked.
I hope you are not arguing that Superman can win this?
No, read above.
I'm just saying these days it's not as simple as "he just drains his energy".
Because Superman is an energy absorber himself who can in turn just absorb it faster.
'Thats my whole arguement in this thread from the very begining.
No, hard telling, he was really vague.
But it's pretty factual that he could just funnel the energy at extremely higher rates than he currently is to accomplish it faster as he has no known limit to how much he can do this.
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