DD's good at exactly what it takes to go hant-to-hand Wolvie effectively:
Not getting hit and quick precise strikes to vulnerable spots (eyes, joints, windpipe, etc). To win against Logan without superior might you've got to be able to disable him faster than he can recover while not getting clawed. Not an easy task, but Matt's on the short list of those who have a fighting chance.
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Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely give the edge (so to speak) to Wolverine in such a confrontation. I'm not sure I'd say he's a superior fighter though. More effective fighter, certainly, but much of Wolvie's effectiveness comes from being able to take hits that would put lesser warriors down for the count. Matt's able to hang in the same league without relying on unbreakable bones and a healing factor.
If they just "go at it" I'd say Wolverine probably 2/3, maybe even 4/5. If Daredevil goes on the defensive except for the occasional crippling-counter-move when Wolverine lunges, I might go as high as 7/10 DD. They're both world-class, to the point where the specifics of the engagement would make a huge difference.
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wolverine is a master of every form of combat. DD is a mster of one style. wolverine is sucha good fight when he did not want stick to hit hims tick who is DD trianer was unable to land a single blow. wolverine allwos people to hit him just so he can take them down far faster. if he wanted he could just not allow them to hit him. trust me wolverine wins vs DD every time unless maga plot devices in DD favor. also look at this pic the man in the pic would destroy DD wolverine beat him in seconds.
This isn't a Wolverine vs. Daredevil thread, so I'll devote one last post to the subject before backing in the warm glow of the Papercut Maffia.
This gets tossed around quite a bit in bios for people like Wolverine and Batman all the time. Frankly, it's absurd. It would take several lifetimes of constant study with masters around the globe. Even with his long life, Logan hasn't spent the time to do this. He's studied many styles I'm sure, and probably mastered a few. But "every form of combat" is just rediculous. Wolverine can beat hand to hand masters left and right because A) He is one himself B) His healing factor C) His bones. Note that none of those were "He's hugely more skilled than they are."
You see my point then about how different tactics making a huge difference in the outcome. If Wolvie had rushed stick with his claws and Stick were on the defensive, the outcome would likely be the opposite. Also, Stick is OLD. His superior skill is usually enough to overcome physically-superior/younger opponents. Not so in Logan's case (see A B and C above).
If he plays defense, I think Logan would win. He won't tire, and time heals him. That's not his usual style though. In my opinion, DD is good enough to have a decent chance of handling an attacking Logan with a strong defense coupled with disabling counters.
Imagine Logan lunging claws-first and DD fading to the side and kicking sideways to dislocate that Adamantium kneecap that Wolvie has most of his weight on. Sure, he'd heal, but for a minute there he won't be walking let alone fighting. It's not a sure thing, but it could definitely happen.
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are u insane? wolverine would not be able to walk for a few minuts if kicked in the knee cap lol. thats funny seeing how hundreds of bulelts dont even faze him. also again u dont see who wolverine trained under do u? he trained under ogun who is a 1000 year old demand and master of every known martial art. wolverine defeated ogun ina pure skill match. also when stick attacked wolverien he was already dead meaning him be old would have no effect it was as if he was in his prime plus more. he is a magical being now. also i forgot to mention that wolverine was holding back and when he finaly decided to swing bakc he easiliy hit stick in the face. also wolverine ahs over 100 years of experience he been in countless battles. he spent more time trianing then DD been a live. also do u see that pic i posted? the only hit wolverien too in that whole fight which last about 10 seconds is a sucker punch shang chi hit him with for no reason. then they squared off and battled. shang chi is more skilled fighter then DD and is far superior in agility and reflexes he is infact due to his powers able to be almost as agile and have almost the reflexes of spiderman.
You have yet to prove this 8888. Please show some proof that Shang-Chi is more skilled, "far superior in agility and reflexes than Daredevil. You keep saying that, but you dont prove it. Until then, i dont think its an accurate statement to make. Considering how you show no evidence of this whatsoever.
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