Alright, I can see your thinking much better now. And yes, that does make a good deal of sense, that having evil intent does somehow corrupt the person or their soul. However, people often have evil intent or ill intent and don't act upon it. I can have road rage and want to WTFpwn everyone on Highway 17, but I will never realize that intent, and it does not constitute as an evil act in the strictest sense, because it does not effect others in society. We recognize as outsiders another's evil by their actions, not their inner thoughts to which we aren't able to perceive and evaluate.
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I am part of my environment and I cannot separate myself from that. Each of us is a part of our immediate environment. We communicate is more ways then just words. We are only now beginning to understand how complicated body language is. Everything from the way you stand, talk and how you use your face communicates something to other people. So, if I corrupt myself, I corrupt the environment around me and when that personal environment interacts with the personal environment of other people, they are effected by my corruption.
If you have road rage and control it, other people at some level can sense it. I’m not talking about supernatural, but the way you drive and look will tell how you feel. Other people will pick up on this although they my not realize it, but they will react.
I don't agree with that. I could be on the other end of this computer with all the evil intent in the world, but if I don't post anything or see anyone, how can it change anyone's reactions.
I beleieve this has already been stated, but just in case...Evil is a point of view. A bankrobber serving 25 years in a fed joint may consider his jailers evil. Especially if if he had what he considered to be a "good reason" for robbing a bank, though most of us would vehemently argue there is no such thing (Daughter needs expensive surgery, about to lose the family home, etc...).
Take a look at the concept of revenge. Most people I've come across consider revenge to be evil, or more specifically, a sin under the umbrella of what their religion teaches. But there is also a small # of us who view revege as a sort of universal balancer...the end result of causality, to which we are all slaves. To quote some famous physicist "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction". Certainly one cannot be seen as evil, or having performed an evil act it's done in the name of revenge...
__________________ I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species that I realized you aren't actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. And the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we...are the cure.
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I don't think arguing causality is really the way to determine the absoluteness of evil. The term itself implies it is absolute. Evil is not defined as "sometimes good" or "subjective viewpoints on the morality of human actions". Also, don't confuse things that are simply "bad" or "unfortunate" with real evil.
"I don't think arguing causality is really the way to determine the absoluteness of evil."
I agree 100%. I was arguing that revenge is the result of causality, in which case revenge wouldn't always be evil. Since revenge is generally considered an evil thing, my logic to answer the original ? of the thread would be no, evil is not always bad.
__________________ I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species that I realized you aren't actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply, and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. And the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we...are the cure.
We all think about revenge against someone some time in our life. Thinking about revenge is a part of the anger process. Seeking revenge is another matter.
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All evil things are bad, but not all bad things are evil.
While bad can be a matter of perception (Specifically, bad consequences), evil itself focuses more on the intent and actions following the intent than the actual consequences. Calling the death of a patient "evil" when the intent and actions were meant to save and thus be "good" is just misusing the term.
That's just a nifty little logical argument that happens to be more or less true based on what I've seen in life. I've always said that there really aren't any stupid people; they just are smart in different ways.
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Mar 23rd, 2006 02:38 AM
The other person has to be near you or see you. Don't be silly. 
