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Did Luke use Choke force in ROTJ?
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And he failed in all those ventures.

But his intentions were good. So the outcome is irrelevent.

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And even though his intentions were good, he turned because of his fear for Padme's life (which was the cause of those good intentions), which led to anger against the Jedi Order who wouldn't help him, which led to hate for the Jedi Order and Obi-Wan, which led to his suffering after Padme's death. His good intentions led him to the dark side because he let his emotions get the best of him.

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i agree with both ush and dubya...force choke is part of tk, which is neutral, and aniken let his emotions go, and didnt follow yoda's advice of detatchment..same thing happened with luke and bespin...

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I've always thought that it was unnecessarily aggressive of Luke to do that to the guards, then again, there are a lot of things about Luke I don't agree with... His attraction to his sister being one of them...

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To me it looked like a combination of Force-Choke and Force-Pull.

Force Choke cause, well, they were chocking and with Force-Push he kinda made the, "Get the fcuk outta my way" gesture as if pushing them to the side while they simultaneously backed of.

Or they could've just been trying to get away from him thinking the farther away the got from Luke the less potent whatever he was doing to them, would be.

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No. Absolutely not!

Anakin had always the best of intentions and down went the jedi.

He wanted peace, freedom and effective government.
He was protecting Padme by protecting Sidious from Mace.
He was protecting the Republic by wiping out the separatists in Mustafar.
He was protecting Padme by Obeying Sidious to wipe out the Younglings.

If things are done at peace, mindfully observing and patiently and gently participating, then a Jedi has done the right thing. No matter how the events turn out.

"But how do I know the good side from the bad?"
"You will know, when calm, at peace, passive..."
"A jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defence, NEVER for attack!"

Obi-Wan said it was all about Point of View

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Sesse
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"In my point of view the Jedi are evil!"
"Then you are lost!"

Yea, but the poit of view can be wrong as well.

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It's not a force push or pull at all as Ushgarak said, it's clearly force choke. Just rewatch the scene, the guy loses conscience.

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Originally posted by KingDubya
And even though his intentions were good, he turned because of his fear for Padme's life (which was the cause of those good intentions), which led to anger against the Jedi Order who wouldn't help him, which led to hate for the Jedi Order and Obi-Wan, which led to his suffering after Padme's death. His good intentions led him to the dark side because he let his emotions get the best of him.

You are correct. Who would have guessed that Yoda was talking about Anakin before the PT in ESB?

"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."

Now as for Luke's force choke. Come on now. He was using it simply to subdue them. He used the lightside to do it. He looked realy calm when he did it. Not a trace of anger or hatred.

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Now as for Luke's force choke. Come on now. He was using it simply to subdue them. He used the lightside to do it. He looked realy calm when he did it. Not a trace of anger or hatred.

I agree. But Luke looking calm is irrelevant. Dooku looked calm, even relaxed, when he blasted Anakin across the room with sith lightning. This doesnt mean he was an avid lightsider. This was just the attitude and stature that he had.

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