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Dark Pheonix vs Franklin Richards
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Originally posted by Power16
That would be Franklin at full potential. DP not as strong as a Celestial.

Isn't Psi-Lord best feat Universe busting...


DP isn’t as strong as a Celestial…her energy reading rival Galactus. >_>

I believe Psi Lord Universe busting feat was in a what it, incidentally DP showed a universe busting feat twice in two separate what if.


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Galactus at what level though? You and I both know he can operate at really low levels...

Was it, i thought it was just an alternate reality. What If always has some ridiculous showings.

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Originally posted by Power16
Galactus at what level though? You and I both know he can operate at really low levels...

Was it, i thought it was just an alternate reality. What If always has some ridiculous showings.


True, but then again after retcons this was not Jean Grey and the Phoenix Force acting as one. And its Prior to consuming the sun. Albeit a vary Hungry Phoenix. confused


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Originally posted by id369
DP isn’t as strong as a Celestial…her energy reading rival Galactus.

Normal Galactus.

Which btw,
in that same issue, Galactus stated that with time, he would destroy Phoenix,
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Originally posted by id369
I believe Psi Lord Universe busting feat was in a what it

That's Not true.

Psi-Lord exploded an entire Universe in a Fantastic Force issue. (Not a What if)

Phoenix on the other hand ...
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Originally posted by id369

incidentally DP showed a universe busting feat twice in two separate what if.

... on the other hand ... there ya go.


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Originally posted by Power16

Was it, i thought it was just an alternate reality.

It was.

And Psi-Lord wins here.

He exploded that Universe in an instant,
while Phoenix consumed that Universe from City/to State/to World/to Galaxy/ect.
meaning,
it doesn't take forever, but it's somewhat of a process,
since it's fire has to travel across the Universe burning everything in it's path.

Oh, and it was a "What If"

Which I don't think the thread starter added as a stipulation.


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Originally posted by Mr Master

Oh, and it was a "What If"

Which I don't think the thread starter added as a stipulation.


roll eyes (sarcastic)

Anyhow I would like to read that What If, I here much about it.


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here's the scans of what Mr. M is referring to if you haven't seen them before Id

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Psi-Lord actually creates a Big Bang of Anti-Matter energy,

and attacks Vagaard with it:

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"brace yourselves for the Big Bang"


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That Universe explodes:

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"Inconceivable ...
Space/Time itself has been torn asunder by the resulting cataclysm,

young Richards' powers are vast"

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Psi-Lord would not have survive that "Big Bang" he created,
so he escaped that Universe's implosion at the last moment:

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"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"

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Originally posted by Power16
That would be Franklin at full potential. DP not as strong as a Celestial.

Isn't Psi-Lord best feat Universe busting...


DP > a celestial

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From the looks of that scan, What IF Psi Lord seems mighty powerful. I would actually give the advantage to the What If Psi Lord over Dark Phoenix. For one, DP is a vary emotionally involved being. I believe DP is suppose to give into one’s primal instincts. God only knows how she would react, when she finds out she is facing her grandson. Then you have control, DP can be vary arrogant, while Psi Lord demonstrates calm and collect thoughts over the given situation. Let alone self control.

Hell, this Psi Lord could give just about any abstract like being and below a run for his money.

However, I don’t see anywhere in the scan’s stating that Psi Lord destroyed a universe. Any clarifications?


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Scans are from Fantastic Force

What If Vulcan had the powers of the Phoenix

I can get u the issue if u like


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Originally posted by Terryc250
DP > a celestial


Scathan the Approver>DP yes

And u know, I support both characters


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Scans are from Fantastic Force
I can get u the issue if u like


Can you hook it up, you can PM the links


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Originally posted by id369

From the looks of that scan, What IF Psi Lord seems mighty powerful.
I would actually give the advantage to the What If Psi Lord over Dark Phoenix.

That's NOT a What if friend,
I already told you that.

That's from Fantastic Force.

Who is "What if" Psi-lord?
quote: (post)
Originally posted by id369

However,
I don’t see anywhere in the scan’s stating that Psi Lord destroyed a universe.
Any clarifications?



How did you miss this?


Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:

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"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"

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"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

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Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:

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"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket
"

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Vagaard is no joke though,
he went right through it unscathed.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by id369

Anyhow I would like to read that What If, I here much about it.

I was referring to Phoenix,
the only place where she's ever destroyed a Universe. (What if)

Read it? You placed in your thread as a feat. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by Mr Master
That's NOT a What if friend,
I already told you that.

That's from Fantastic Force.

Who is "What if" Psi-lord?



How did you miss this?


Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:

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"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"

............................................................................................................

(please log in to view the image)

"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

............................................................................................................

Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:

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"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket
"

............................................................................................................


Vagaard is no joke though,
he went right through it unscathed.


Again I don’t see, the comic stating it destroyed the Universe.


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Originally posted by id369
Again I don’t see, the comic stating it destroyed the Universe.

"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

Do they really have to spell it out?


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Originally posted by Mr Master
"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

Do they really have to spell it out?


Actually you do.
Its well known that large energy discharges can effect the space/time fabric.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Mr Master

"A Big Bang implosion of Space/Time itself"

Do they really have to spell it out?

psi lord is bad ass has he taken out other universes masters


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Originally posted by Smoki
psi lord is bad ass has he taken out other universes masters

That's the only one that I've seen on panel,
but I'll look into my collection of his appearances,
to see if he's imploded Space/Time itself Big Bang style in other arcs.


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Ah I see, so no backing for Universal Destruction claim other then a recreating the big bang (apparently implosion), and effecting space/time fabric.


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