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Well, i have seen spider man sent the thing and the hulk flying throught away, and that doesnt mean than spidey is stronger than both.

I have seen too many times beast doing the same thing that spidey or crawller in agility terms.

And not, beast and night crawler are in the same level of spider man, more agile than vamped blade.


I'm not claiming he is stronger than the Hulk or Thing.

I suggest you to go and check Blade's respect thread so you can see him in action.


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Originally posted by grey fox
Cap is possibly 4 tons and could be higher from what his feats show us.

'Mastered every single weapon known to man' laughing
So he can use the ultimate nullifier ? A Skrull pistol ? What about the 'Kree ultimate weapon'.

Lets see....

Cap can keep up with Beast while under a hangover , now correct me if i'm wrong but Blade can't touch Beast when it comes to speed and agility.

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?...ca261p054kw.jpg

http://img271.imageshack.us/my.php?...ca261p077qy.jpg

Taking several punches from Powerman (who's WAY out of Blades league)

http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?...sv1021164ds.jpg

Let's see....bullet proof skin , Class ten strength and all the training cap has had, surely US Agent has this in the bag ?

http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rsv384172wt.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?...rsv384183ph.jpg

http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?...rsv384219qu.jpg

http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?...rsv384223ac.jpg

...nope.

This Skrull took a punch from Thing and didn't flinch , he get's ko'd by cap.
http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?...vol307173vr.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?...vol307202pc.jpg


Cap pwns blade so much it wouldn't even be a fight , more like a one sided ass kicking.



hmmm you make it sound like cap is more agile than beast??

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Originally posted by Francisco
I'm not claiming he is stronger than the Hulk or Thing.

I suggest you to go and check Blade's respect thread so you can see him in action.


Dude, i wasnt talking about blade in that one. I was saying that spidey has sent fly away people like the hulk or the thing and it doesnt means that he is stronger than hulk or thing.

I have read tons of blade comics, he is very good. Very atlethic, very good fighter, very strong, a sword master, etc. But in agility terms, he is not like beast, spiderman, nightcrawler, captain america, daredevil or black panther.


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Dude, i wasnt talking about blade in that one. I was saying that spidey has sent fly away people like the hulk or the thing and it doesnt means that he is stronger than hulk or thing.

What kinda logic is that? Spider-man only needs to be strong enough to lift Hulk or Thing. He's lot faster and more agile that they could react to being thrown away.

Now, it's lot different against someone nearly agile as you are. If Beast was indeed more agile and faster than BP, BP wouldn't have owned him.

Besides, we've seen what Beast's agility and other advantages become when he's up against people with high jobber auras. (Ie Wolverine, Captain America)

IMO Cap is bit more skilled in hand to hand combat than Blade, but Blade makes it up with his weapons. IMO this is quite fair match. I could see it go either way. So it's 6/10 for both of them, depending of course.


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What kinda logic is that? Spider-man only needs to be strong enough to lift Hulk or Thing. He's lot faster and more agile that they could react to being thrown away.

Now, it's lot different against someone nearly agile as you are. If Beast was indeed more agile and faster than BP, BP wouldn't have owned him.

Besides, we've seen what Beast's agility and other advantages become when he's up against people with high jobber auras. (Ie Wolverine, Captain America)

IMO Cap is bit more skilled in hand to hand combat than Blade, but Blade makes it up with his weapons. IMO this is quite fair match. I could see it go either way. So it's 6/10 for both of them, depending of course.


Dude, spiderman not only needs to be strong enough to lift hulk or thing. We are talking about guys who can lift 100 tons or nearly, to lift one of those guys and send them fly away needs to be very strong. But it doesnt means that he is STRONGER than those guys.

Beast feats of agily are so inpressive than only spidey or crawler could equal him in those terms. Black panther , maybe sometimes he could be almost as agile as beast.

Also, i see that cap's agility is very underrated. He is nearly daredevil or panther in agility terms, if not equal. Wolverine isnt as agile as those guys.

And talking about this particular match, i say cap wins. Blade is pretty good, and is stronger than cap, but cap is a master in several kind of figting, also his shield its a good adventage for him.


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http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c...Bladejumpin.jpg

If this do not place Blade several categories above Beast/Cap/DD I don't know what could.


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Originally posted by Francisco
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c...Bladejumpin.jpg

If this do not place Blade several categories above Beast/Cap/DD I don't know what could.


lol that litlte jump puts him above beast, you do know beast and iff you want to see some agility of him read Avengers (1st series) #137.
He the only one who was agile enough to make it in a maze full of bombs.

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Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.


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Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.


Damn straight. thumb up


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Cap 9/10.

Until i See 1 feat of blade beating someone worth a goddamn in h2h. he aint worth nothing. And as for strength, cap bench presses 2200 without breaking a sweat kiddoe. Also agility wise, he has kept up with the best.

Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.

And im going to check out the Respect thread and i BETTER see a better feat than running damn near 60mph and he better be eating explosions for lunch.

Bygod you tell em' Im to mad to mad

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I AM back, and i just looked through the blade Respect thread. All he did is cut down a bunch of Vampires, but Blade has a jobber Aura with Vampires like Wolverine does Ninjas, sure he can kill a bunch of em, but after the first hundred, no-one is impressed anymore.

Blade Tangled with Gambit, who KEPT up with him, he also Tangled with spidey, but he didnt BEAT anyone, he has no heavyweights under his belt, and hasnt shown anything as impressive as Cap.

Cap is Faster, Stronger, More Durable, and just all around more Gangsta


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I AM back, and i just looked through the blade Respect thread. All he did is cut down a bunch of Vampires, but Blade has a jobber Aura with Vampires like Wolverine does Ninjas, sure he can kill a bunch of em, but after the first hundred, no-one is impressed anymore.

Blade Tangled with Gambit, who KEPT up with him, he also Tangled with spidey, but he didnt BEAT anyone, he has no heavyweights under his belt, and hasnt shown anything as impressive as Cap.

Cap is Faster, Stronger, More Durable, and just all around more Gangsta
Wow you are a moron. When Blade fought Gambit he didn't have his Vampiric powers yet. Faster? You didn't look too close in the thread I think. More durable? Blades been shot in the leg and kept fighting. Your a dumb@ss imo.


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Originally posted by bakerboy
Dude, i wasnt talking about blade in that one. I was saying that spidey has sent fly away people like the hulk or the thing and it doesnt means that he is stronger than hulk or thing.

I have read tons of blade comics, he is very good. Very atlethic, very good fighter, very strong, a sword master, etc. But in agility terms, he is not like beast, spiderman, nightcrawler, captain america, daredevil or black panther.


The one where I think spiderman beat up the hulk was cosmic spiderman. When classic spidey fought hulk I think he flipped him over once and gave him a few good shots but I wouldn'y say he was the victor

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Wow you are a moron. When Blade fought Gambit he didn't have his Vampiric powers yet. Faster? You didn't look too close in the thread I think. More durable? Blades been shot in the leg and kept fighting. Your a dumb@ss imo.
good thing no-one gives a flying monkey f*ck ab out your Opinion. Cap got shot 7 times in the arm and not only never said ouch, but used the arm to shoot back at the people.


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Anyway I still say cap takes 7/10

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Anyway I still say cap takes 7/10
9/10....but you get the point.


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good thing no-one gives a flying monkey f*ck ab out your Opinion. Cap got shot 7 times in the arm and not only never said ouch, but used the arm to shoot back at the people.
You have scan of that impressive peak human moment?


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You have scan of that impressive peak human moment?
why yes i do, would you like to see it?


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Now for blade being stronger, he aint nearly strong enough. Cap trades blows with top dogs unless Blade is class 20 he aint KOing cap without a hell of a time.


Who has said anything about KOing him? Blade would just slice his head off with his sword.

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but Blade has a jobber Aura with Vampires like Wolverine does Ninjas, sure he can kill a bunch of em, but after the first hundred, no-one is impressed anymore.


..Umm, you mean like as big as Captain America has with everyone? That's quite large jobber aura then smile

How well has Captain America fared against Wolverine in the past? And don't mention the one hit KO from Enemy of State/Agent Of Shield.


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