But that was about strength. Lifting and throwing to bodies for someone who can lift over 10 tonnes is not a big deal, same in case of Carnage. Current Venom is still stronger.
That scene also is not relevant enough. Carnage was suffering from some serious head trauma. Despite what was being said in that strip, Carnage was too confused, and was unable to focus.
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If anyone ever collects the three issue series featuring Carnage's first appearances, it is clear that Carnage is, without a doubt, the strongest of both Venom and Spider-Man, due to the inexperiences that both Venom and Spider-Man have in dealing with lunatics such as Kletus Cassidy whose moral agenda is entirely the opposite of that of themselves. And also due to Carnage pwning the sh!t out of Venom and Spidey the entire time.
The Maximum Carnage series, as excellent a story as it is, really doesn't show too much one on one action between either Spidey, Venom, or Carnage. There are a few fight scenes between them, especially with the last issue, but most of the time they're just playing cat and mouse with him.
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Carnage stronger as stated before However he's crazed and loses to venom quite a bit
considering it was their first fight and Venom didn't know all of Carnage's powers he fought well and besides they hardly fought. Maximum Carnage Venom and them were pretty much equal Carnage won with his team while Venom's fought against him Venom is the better fighter though not stronger
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When Carnage appeared Venom was barely standing, he was tired and badly injured after HOURS of torture. Besides Carnage's trauma did not effected his speed and strength. So it still was a fair fight and Venom pretty much kicked his a$$.
i dont undersatnd what upgrade you are talking about .....carnage is stronger than venom ..venom is more durable and obviusoly a btter fighter
venom is about 25-30tons(as thsi woudl explain himm lifting the havy things he has done his strength fluctuates it does not need upgrades he strong and durable enough to go toe to toe with class 50s and own them
spidey has recently got an upgrade........but to what extent it is unkown
if you are talking about scorpion venom he may still be around 25 tons but still below class 50 carange
it is possibel though that if brock gets the suit back he will be stronger in teh marvel book gudes and be recorded as a class 25-30
Well, Carnage never lifted anything heavier than Helicopter and I'm not talking about Scorpion. Before Venom was beating Carnage as often or even more regulary than Carnage beating Venom so they were pretty equel. Then Venom merged with his clone that was created from piece of symbiote and that clone was almost as strong as original Venom and they became one. So current Venom is almost twice as strong as Venom that was equel to Carnage.
dude just cos a guy cant match another guy dont make them equal in strength ....for example cap going toe to toe with spidey dont make him a class 20 he's jus 800lbs
wolvie goin toe to toe with spidey and matching him does not make him class 20
you understand wot im sayin
venom was said to be 11 tons in the handbooks so if he merged with a clone of himself he woudl be 25-30tons maximum
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