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Ok this has to make sense...right? (spoilers)
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I guess if Will dieing and POTC 4 is the only way we get to have Jack/Liz...then, I guess that 's what it'll have to be...but AWE could have been so much better....I would much prefer that Liz chose Jack over Will...but beggars can't be choosy.....I still hope for my fantasy ending...that perhaps deep down Will realizes that Jack and Liz are meant for each other, but know that neither one will admit it because of him and he dies a hero...I guess I could live with that...cuz then we'd know that Jack and Liz really do love each other....but even after Will's death it will take a while for them to come together....we will see that in one of the new sequels that they think back on DMC and admit that they have been in love ever since the rescue from the original POTC1...cuz in my hearts of hearts...as a woman...that's what I know to be true. I can see it all over Elizabeth's face every time she is around Jack...and I can feel it oozing from Jack everytime he is around Elizabeth....they are meant to be together..and nothing that DIsney does in AWE can convince me otherwise...I refuse to believe that all the clues and symbolisms were a waste of time..I still don't understand though...why does fate intervene to simply postpone the enivitable marriage...it just deosn't make sense....why does Norrington tell Liz it's a curious thing....Why does Liz have such deep faith in Jack Sparrow...why is the compass so emphasize as to pointing to the thing you want most in this world and when Liz holds it on two obvious occasions it points to Jack..why does her dress sink to the bottom of the sea (however, if Will does kill himself then yes, the relationship is doomed)...etc, etc, etc...the list of clues and symbolisms and theories are endless....and they all point to Jack and Liz...


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exactly^^

if they **** this movie up they need to explain the compass and the faith that liz had in jack.

Remember that the compass pointed to jack not bc liz is horny its bc she wants jack the most in this world and it is her hearts desire.

this are words form ted/terry.


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Originally posted by Chiki Mina
Remember that the compass pointed to jack not bc liz is horny its bc she wants jack the most in this world and it is her hearts desire.

this are words form ted/terry.


Gaah that's so true! And they even said it... they cannot ignore throughout AWE what they have started in DMC -- and certainly they cannot leave the Jack/liz development just in the air and make AWE a blind-denial-inconsequent movie to their characters feelings no...

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they cant toy jacks feelings and OUR feelings. and just basically leave us in some kind of ****ed up limbo wondering why these jack/liz scenes had to happened, and the compass!


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they need to explain Dead Man's Chest to us if it doesnt end up Jack/Liz by the end of AWE laughing out loud

I swear if it's will/Liz like learning how much they love eachother I will just be totally confused and scared of watching any movie T&T create ever again.

I dont like the feeling of being tricked by a movie sad

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Originally posted by Chiki Mina
exactly^^

if they **** this movie up they need to explain the compass and the faith that liz had in jack.

Remember that the compass pointed to jack not bc liz is horny its bc she wants jack the most in this world and it is her hearts desire.

this are words form ted/terry.


they did actually say it doesnt point there because of a hearts desire..it just means she wants Jack most in the world.

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Originally posted by LovelyOne
I swear if it's will/Liz like learning how much they love eachother I will just be totally confused and scared of watching any movie T&T create ever again.


OMG if it is really like that, then I can ardently declare that T&T are the worst writers ever -- DMC is not a "Will/Liz learning of the difficulties of life and partnership"; it can't be!!! It's about Liz/Jack as we all know!

-- and if its a "Will/Liz learning of the difficulties of life and partnership" roll eyes (sarcastic) then I kill myself mad!

EDIT: Well killing myself would be a bit drastic, I'll reconsider it hahaha!

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...LETS NOT GET JUMPY HERE AGAIN PPL!! lool lets not loose it come on come on come on!! this is the WHAT IF they make a will/liz movie.

but obviously they wont bc these points that we give are very good points. u think intelligent ppl like T&T will miss all these points? doubt it folks..


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Originally posted by Chiki Mina
[Bbut obviously they wont bc these points that we give are very good points. u think intelligent ppl like T&T will miss all these points? doubt it folks.. [/B]


I'm having second thoughts on that sad confused


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well dont!!!!!!

I have said this so many times. Disney is like the donald trump of all cartoons. T&T are smart ****ers(excuse my language) they know what they are doing. and they are not gonna risk a low rating and make it shitty. jack/liz BOOM billion mark. They so noticed that. then why they would bother risking having a movie ending with will/liz and risk having AWE and the potc franchise at the bottom of the ocean with davy jones locker.

nooo this ppl are smart. they wont risk it i guarantee it!!


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all i have to say is...
NOOO JOHNNY CAN'T RETIRE!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be horrible!!! sick mad sad

*runs around in circles yelling 'Where will all good movies come from then?!?!'*


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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be horrible!!! sick mad sad

*runs around in circles yelling 'Where will all good movies come from then?!?!'*


lol!! i know!!!!
he's my idol!!
no

seriously, without johnny, movie sells will just go down hill just like they were before dead man's chest came out


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Originally posted by Chiki Mina
well dont!!!!!!

I have said this so many times. Disney is like the donald trump of all cartoons. T&T are smart ****ers(excuse my language) they know what they are doing. and they are not gonna risk a low rating and make it shitty. jack/liz BOOM billion mark. They so noticed that. then why they would bother risking having a movie ending with will/liz and risk having AWE and the potc franchise at the bottom of the ocean with davy jones locker.

nooo this ppl are smart. they wont risk it i guarantee it!!



My hope has plummeted to the bottom of the ocean, I have a strange feeling about this. I remember hearing somewhere that TnT don't write their movies to make the viewers happy, I don't remember where I saw it. But I do remember somebody talking about it. I know they are pretty aware of the J/L dynamic. And I could bet anything that their dynamic was the reason why viewers kept coming back for more DMC. But I don't entirely trust Disney. I hope I'm wrong and, hope that I have to take back everything I said. I guess we should all have a little bit of hope, because that is the last thing we loose. sad


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^^That has made me really, really sad right now sad...
Ahh I feel sort of depressed -- maybe because it's monday tomorrow... yeah, fun... no

Well I better get going... talk to you laters, pirate friends -- nighty night!


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^^That has made me really, really sad right now sad...
Ahh I feel sort of depressed -- maybe because it's monday tomorrow... yeah, fun... no

Well I better get going... talk to you laters, pirate friends -- nighty night!



night smile


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I'm feeling down right now..I've lost a bit of faith now..I dont think its going to end up Jack/Liz even if Will does become the captain of the flying dutchman...I have a feeling they might be getting rid of Elizabeth's character too..

but they must realise if they piss off a bunch of people who loved the thought of Jack/Liz...the ones who got it up to 1 billion..then they can say goodbye to a well liked franchise..they can say goodbye to good DVD sales etc..

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I'm feeling horrible, I feel like cursing, crying, screaming. It's not fair that they would do this to us people that went to see the movie more that 3 times big grin (me). This is not fair, not to us. I'm pretty sure that thanks to us they got their little billion.

Lovelyone, is there any chance that those spoilers might be wrong or are they reliable?


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I'm feeling horrible, I feel like cursing, crying, screaming. It's not fair that they would do this to us people that went to see the movie more that 3 times big grin (me). This is not fair, not to us. I'm pretty sure that thanks to us they got their little billion.

Lovelyone, is there any chance that those spoilers might be wrong or are they reliable?


exactly ..it wasnt the W/E shippers flocking to the cinema cuz I wouldnt call that movie W?E friendly..so...

I think they are pretty reliable spoilers..

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Originally posted by LovelyOne
exactly ..it wasnt the W/E shippers flocking to the cinema cuz I wouldnt call that movie W?E friendly..so...

I think they are pretty reliable spoilers..




Thanx Lovely for confirming it sad


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OMG PPL WE ARE FALLING AGAIN!! GRRRRRRRRR i swear!!!!

ok i think im the one whos gonna go. ok i know no one cares watever but ppl are saying "im leaving im leaving" and stay here for what?! to give more aweful news to get in the dumps AGAIN! theres so much more than meets the eye here ppl...they are spoilers not facts i dont care what u all think(sry i do care im just bitter right now sry)

I still have faith in u guys no matter what.


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