..and? My God, Muhammad faught people! Why, he was downright unChristian! In fact, most of these things seem to boil down to, "Muhammad wasn't a Christian." He saved his own life! Lordy lordy, how can any religion believe in their founder if he didn't get nailed to a tree? It's just not sensible!
In most cases, I at least have some vague idea what point this person is trying to make. Not in this one, though. He received divine revelation in a cave? So? Caves are nice.
Once again, color me baffled.
quote]Prophecy Jesus fulfilled biblical prophecy about being the Messiah Muhammad did not fulfill any biblical prophecy except the ones about false teachers[/quote]
Haha, no. I like how this site is obviously intended to preach to the choir. Mainly, though ... if you think people don't argue that Muhhamad fulfilled OT prophesies, you're off your rocker.
You know, there are traiditions that put A’isha's age anywhere between twelve and twenty. Haha, what am I saying? Of course you didn't know that! Hell, you probably didn't even know her name! Do actual research instead of just mindlessly quoting Christian propoganda sites? Not out JIA!
Wow, this site sure is unbiased, isn't it! Stating as a fact that Jesus performed miracles, but putting "alleged" in front of Muhammad's most important one. Of course, this claim is ludacrously incorrect; for example, when Muhammad and his followers were stuck in the desert without water, Muhammad is reputed to have made water flow from his hands. Just to take an example...
I'm done. Nobody with the slightest critical thinking abilities could think your sites are relaible, JIA, and I've wasted enough time as it is.
__________________ "Men curse the Communist Party, but eventually it may release them. If hell were endless, then God would be worse than our Secret Police."--Pastor Valentin
I'm please; I'd rather have intrigued JIA into doing a little research, but I suppose we should be realistic in our expectations.
__________________ "Men curse the Communist Party, but eventually it may release them. If hell were endless, then God would be worse than our Secret Police."--Pastor Valentin
Just so you know, I don't hate Islam, in fact it makes more sense to me than Christianity. (Except for that whole covering up women and women serving man shit). These christians hate Islam because of the holy war. And a few other reasons like 9/11.
No Jesus and Muhammad were not alike. They were totally different.
The only alikeness between Islam and Christianity however, is the fairy tale.
Both religions consist of some sadistic deity who will torture you slowly and painfully for the rest of eternity.
But the differance between the Prophets are great, and basic ones are rather obvious.
First one is that Jesus tried to change the already existing laws of a religion (Judaism) into something more hippie like, while Muhammad tried to incorporate everything about Pagan Arabian religion, plus himself as a leader.
Some other differances include -
Muhammad lead raids and battles, while Jesus didn't.
Also Muhammad was recorded in the holy books(Hadith), by Muslims themselves to be a paedo, while Jesus was not recorded to be a paedo.
Muhammad was recorded, by Muslims, in holy book to have tortured and killed, while Jesus was not recorded to have tortured and killed.
Muhammad was recorded by Muslims and historians to have been a warlord, while Jesus was not recorded to be a warlord.
etc...etc...etc...
They are generally very different anyway - not sure why we're comparing them to begin with?
While I do not agree with anything Muhammad did, said, nor do I agree with his existance, that does not however prove devinity of Jesus.
In fact, Muhammad had nothing to do with Jesus...provided that is what you were trying to prove.
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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة
Sister, I have the right to critisise anything I like, and you are going to have to deal with it.
Just because you agree with an ideology, I don't have to. I have the right to disagree, and I will exercise that right to the maximum.
If I believe something is not right, or that it is enslaving or dangerous to its followers or otherwise, I will speak out against it.
I have a brain, and I am not afraid to use it - I couldn't give a damn what a bunch of ignorant/arrogant westerners are going to say regarding that. (obviously, not directed at you)
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في هذا العالم ثلاثة أشخاص أفسدوا البشرية : راعي غنم , طبيب و راكب الجمال , و راكب الجمال هو أسوأ نشال و أسوأ مشعوذ بين الثلاثة
A degree holds no value when it comes to critical thinking. Everyone has a right to scrutinize the people's beliefs/faith including you. That is the true path of a truth-seeker....
"Don't believe in anything simply because you heard it.
Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept and live up to it."--- The Buddha Sakyamuni
your view in women cover up , its really sensetive
if you have a diamond , you will show it to people so that they greed in her or you will keep it for your self .
this diamond is the women in islam ,
did you ask your self why rape rate in western country is more than in islamic country ,in addition , i read american statistic show that there is more than 1200 rape crime everyday . thats awful
Maybe, but I don't think its a strict correlation.
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Keep in mind that many women covered themselves (similar to many devout Christians do) as a sign of high faith. It WAS a personal choice, and should have remained that way.
More like 1800. But America has the highest rate of rape of any countries that publish that information; it shouldn't be treated as the "typical" western country.
Regarding the other discussion on hand, Jesus certainly didn't lead raids or battles againts the Romans. But it's false to say he never used violence; according to John, he assaulted the money-changers with a whip.
__________________ "Men curse the Communist Party, but eventually it may release them. If hell were endless, then God would be worse than our Secret Police."--Pastor Valentin
Last edited by Gregory on Oct 21st, 2006 at 05:34 PM
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Oct 21st, 2006 03:23 PM
My favourite quote by Buddha.
