I have proven it. You just refuse to accept it because you feel that you are right. It's okay, I've come to terms with your inability to admit when you're wrong.
Obviously his spider-sense helps a lot, but Peter also just has superhuman reflexes that would enable him to avoid Wolverine and land numerous hits on him. With his healing factor cut down considerably, too, Wolverine would still go down.
You have no proven shit. I have match every one of your feats every single time. You have yet to prove spiderman is superior through feats. You can think it all you want won’t make it true. Funny thing is you think spiderman far superior in speed and you can’t even proof he superior let a lone far.
Ya because spiderman oh so good at hitting wolverine. Oh wait even when spiderman has spider sense he has a ahrd time hitting Logan unless Logan allows it.
Again you assume spiderman who will have no way of knows how wolverine will attack him or any means of defense vs the superior fighter will land hits left and right with out taking any blows.
He did that and more. Cyclops. It made me laugh at the time, i thought Wolverine, the best there is at getting flipped over by someone basically of normal human speed and strength.
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That the best you got? Leave unless your actaully going to debate me in which case I will have fun improving your knowledge on key events and characters in the marvel universe.
My worthless, oh you mean "you're worthless"? How can I debate with you when I can barely understand you. It's like you're six or a retard or something.
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Without Spider sense, Spidey is pretty much going to get creamed here. I still say Batman and his gadgets would be the end of spidey. Spiderman of course, could rip his limbs off and beat him with his own limbs but, that is if he gets up to him to begin with. Smoke pellets to get cover and then explosives.
Whats up Metalmanx, long time no fuss. First I would like to say that wolverine is just as fast as spiderman. Second I would like to say that, I could have sworn when I look at wolverine fighting venom in comics he be running circles around venom but when spiderman fights venom (who spiderman spidersense dont even work against) spiderman get his a** handed to him. Wolverine stalemate venom, whereas spiderman get the f***** beaten out of him by venom. Do you get my point. I could have also sworn that a slow hulk grabbed spiderman by the head and almost killed him (with his spider sense on) and you think that wolverine cant tag him. Get off of spiderman nuts. Wolverine is fast enough to tag him with the spider sense on or off and he will tag him, get over it. Do me a favor, tell me somebody that spiderman has fought and didnt land a lick, please do. If anybody has any kind of decent fighting ability (which spiderman dont have) and they're quite tacticle, they could land numerous of blows on spiderman, including batman.
If he can get them all stuck in a position where their strength means nothing (That scan of wolvie stuck in webbing with his hands pointed at his chest comes to mind) he should win against the healing factor twins.
Same can be said for Captain America, Batman, and Daredevil. They all know in martial arts that leverage is a key factor in any battle. If Spiderman uses his web advantage combined aerial maneuvers *considering the others suck compared to him in that area* I can see him winning.
Though I must admit taking the spider sense from him is a huge blow to him. I can see the others taking it just as much as I can see him taking it. I am a firm believer in Spiderman being >> all those mentioned so far, but without the huge tactical advantage that is the spider sense, it makes things far more complicated for my friendly neighborhood Spiderman
I think that its four people on that list that can beat spiderman with his spider sense, without it, it is a curb stomp. Spiderman CANT FIGHT, HE DEPENDS TO MUCH ON THAT SPIDER SENSE.
First of all I would like to say that Spider-Man is faster than Wolverine. It's pretty much fact. To spend time trying to debate this any further than it's already gone would be futile. You're just going to deny it anyway and say that Wolverine can move that fast, when of course, he cannot. Second, yes, Venom gives Spider-Man trouble. Know why? He's a Spider-Man villian. He's faster than Spider-Man and negates his spider-sense. Of course, when fighting Wolverine, he uses about 1/3 of his powers against him. If you know anything about Venom, you would know that he could've wrecked Wolverine if he really wanted to. I also could've sworn that Hulk catches and thrashes Wolverine exponentially more often than against Spider-Man. Get off Wolverine's nuts. Wolverine will tag Spider-Man eventually, yes. But only about 1 hit per ~5 Spider-Man will be dishing out.
But here. You want one? Here's one:
A trained martial artist (with, apparently, some other enhancements) gets owned. Interesting because his nails (claws) and sharp points on his costume have a poison that can knock Spidey out, so SM can’t even get touched (obviously with the sharp points) during this fight or he loses. http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/385/18522nh.jpg
Another thing. Why do people just give Spider-Man nothing in the fighting skills department? One does not need formal training in order to have fighting skills. And good ones at that. He's developed his own, unique fighting style based around his powers. And yet people say he has no fighting skills. Ignorance.