Originally posted by Bicnarok
Oh such a tragic event I agree, 2,500 odd people died. The previous year 6,000 died in an earthquake in Turkey, it hardly made the news apart from the first day or two. One example of how the press is steered to make people remember what THEY want.
An earthquake is a natural disaster. 9/11 was an attack against a great nation.
What does it matter how the people died, every year loads of people die for various reasons around the world.
Just because it had to happen to this "great nation" it doesn't make any difference or are people in the US more valuable as others (Note I wrote "people" not US citizens as people from other nations died in the strategy).
And yep the US is a great nation probably the most corrupt nation that ever was.
Originally posted by BicnarokIt's more to do with the principle, not how people died. Also, if I had a choice to keep alive a random American and a random Turk, I'd pick an American.
What does it matter how the people died, every year loads of people die for various reasons around the world.Just because it had to happen to this "great nation" it doesn't make any difference or are people in the US more valuable as others (Note I wrote "people" not US citizens as people from other nations died in the strategy).
And yep the US is a great nation probably the most corrupt nation that ever was.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
What does it matter how the people died, every year loads of people die for various reasons around the world.Just because it had to happen to this "great nation" it doesn't make any difference or are people in the US more valuable as others (Note I wrote "people" not US citizens as people from other nations died in the strategy).
And yep the US is a great nation probably the most corrupt nation that ever was.
Its the fact that such a disaster was intended by some bad people in the Middle East. They are the ones that really killed the people in the towers and planes. It was an act or aggression, man v.s man.
The United States is a great country IMO, I live here, I have a good job, the education here is great and I am pretty happy. Its a free country mate. We have the greatest Armed Forces and many allies, I feel safe here, and our technology is far superior to most other nations. (We pretty much own the Internet)
Sure some aspects of our government may not be perfect, but I don't think such a diverse and huge nation could have a perfect government, in fact, I don't think a "perfect" government could even exist.
When a group of radical morons attack two towers full of people, thats a huge issue, and we go to the source of the problem and fight it there, so we don't have to deal with it here. And we don't like people that try to get any humor from it or disrespect it in any way. I don't joke or talk bad about the train attack the UK had, which killed a few hundred people I believe.
it isnt just about an attack on a GREAT nation. how many people did die there??????? only a month into it a HUGE earthquake rocks northers{over 8.7 on the richter scale lasting for 9 minutes only a kilometre deep} pakistan killing 280000{yes as in 2 hundered thousand} officially while unoficially atleast 10 times more die{i know, i lived through it, people i knew died} and it doesnt get a TENTH of the world coverage that katrina gets, let alone the time period katrina gets it for.{heavens forbid local american networks or fox}.
its about americans being too obsessed with themselves as a nation to open their eyes to the significance of the wrest of the world. after all think about it, which event is remembered more right now? the tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands/millions or katrina?????
Originally posted by leonheartmm
it isnt just about an attack on a GREAT nation. how many people did die there??????? only a month into it a HUGE earthquake rocks northers{over 8.7 on the richter scale lasting for 9 minutes only a kilometre deep} pakistan killing 280000{yes as in 2 hundered thousand} officially while unoficially atleast 10 times more die{i know, i lived through it, people i knew died} and it doesnt get a TENTH of the world coverage that katrina gets, let alone the time period katrina gets it for.{heavens forbid local american networks or fox}.its about americans being too obsessed with themselves as a nation to open their eyes to the significance of the wrest of the world. after all think about it, which event is remembered more right now? the tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands/millions or katrina?????
Oh my goodness, I am not talking about natural disasters! I am talking about human on human ATTACKS!!!
How many time will I have to say this? How stupid are you people??
Natural disasters happen, they are a fact of life, all we can do about it is help victims etc, 9/11 was a terrorist attack, humans killed all of the people that day (over 2000) nature didn't kill them.
Its sad and wrong that an extreme group would take such measures to kill innocent civillians. Thats why it is such a big and sensitive deal.
Originally posted by sweersa
Its the fact that such a disaster was intended by some bad people in the Middle East. They are the ones that really killed the people in the towers and planes. It was an act or aggression, man v.s man.The United States is a great country IMO, I live here, I have a good job, the education here is great and I am pretty happy. Its a free country mate. We have the greatest Armed Forces and many allies, I feel safe here, and our technology is far superior to most other nations. (We pretty much own the Internet)
Sure some aspects of our government may not be perfect, but I don't think such a diverse and huge nation could have a perfect government, in fact, I don't think a "perfect" government could even exist.
When a group of radical morons attack two towers full of people, thats a huge issue, and we go to the source of the problem and fight it there, so we don't have to deal with it here. And we don't like people that try to get any humor from it or disrespect it in any way. I don't joke or talk bad about the train attack the UK had, which killed a few hundred people I believe.
The country itself is a great country,the government that runs it is not.It is an evil out of control government who considers the american people a bunch of pions.No there is probably no perfect government but our government is not the government anymore that are forefathers faught for where the people had control over the government.Now its big businesses and big corporations that control the government.
you have been hugely misinformed on who was really behind the attacks of sept 11th by the mainstream press btw.the mainstream press is controlled by the CIA and thats who was behind the attacks.They used jets that were remote controlled and flew them into the towers so Bush could have his fake and phony war to go over there and get control over the oil.Bush wanted 9-11 to happen and wanted it to.he even threatened FBI agents with arrest if they tried to stop the attacks from happening when they approached him with information on the attacks. The radical morons who attacked the towers are the CIA to again,get their fake and phony war they wanted.we dont live in a free country anymore,we live in a dictatership. you want to learn more on who was REALLY behind the attacks,you should go to either the library and check out the book called DEBUNKING THE 9-11 DEBUNKING.an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory by DAVID RAY GRIFFITH.he shreads to pieces in that book the officail version and proves there was government complicity.
The media is a tool for the government,they dont report news.they consider small tiny unimportant events like OJ SIMPSON front page material instead of witnesses who have benn threatened with death threats for saying they heard and saw explosions going off in the towers before the planes hit.they dont report REAL news like that because as i said,they are controlled by the CIA which is a very wicked and evil organization.visit this site if you want to learn the REAL truth.www.infowars.com and go to the 9-11 prior knowledge section there.it documents and proves it all.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
The country itself is a great country,the government that runs it is not.It is an evil out of control government who considers the american people a bunch of pions.No there is probably no perfect government but our government is not the government anymore that are forefathers faught for where the people had control over the government.Now its big businesses and big corporations that control the government.you have been hugely misinformed on who was really behind the attacks of sept 11th by the mainstream press btw.the mainstream press is controlled by the CIA and thats who was behind the attacks.They used jets that were remote controlled and flew them into the towers so Bush could have his fake and phony war to go over there and get control over the oil.Bush wanted 9-11 to happen and wanted it to.he even threatened FBI agents with arrest if they tried to stop the attacks from happening when they approached him with information on the attacks. The radical morons who attacked the towers are the CIA to again,get their fake and phony war they wanted.we dont live in a free country anymore,we live in a dictatership. you want to learn more on who was REALLY behind the attacks,you should go to either the library and check out the book called DEBUNKING THE 9-11 DEBUNKING.an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory by DAVID RAY GRIFFITH.he shreads to pieces in that book the officail version and proves there was government complicity.
The media is a tool for the government,they dont report news.they consider small tiny unimportant events like OJ SIMPSON front page material instead of witnesses who have benn threatened with death threats for saying they heard and saw explosions going off in the towers before the planes hit.they dont report REAL news like that because as i said,they are controlled by the CIA which is a very wicked and evil organization.visit this site if you want to learn the REAL truth.www.infowars.com and go to the 9-11 prior knowledge section there.it documents and proves it all.
Hahaha You are pretty funny. Oh please, the US government wouldn't do that. Sure some aspects of it may be corrupt., but its still a great nation.
Your political views are corrupt, you must visit the BS sites a lot. The US government wouldn't kill 2000 plus of its own people. That is an insane assumption. The CIA doesn't control the media, the media bashes many aspects of our Government and questions Bush all of the time.
The oil exported from the Middle East became lower after the time we invaded them, we obviously are not there for the oil.
We don't live in a dictatorship fool, we have free elections, Bush will be gone when his term is up, and we will have another new president. Adolf Hitler was a dictator, man, you need to stop reading far left emo BS propaganda and start looking at history and current events.
I have looked into some of the wierd conspiricy things before, its interesting at first, but then you become well aware that its all BS and some of it is even funny at times. Its mostly created by idiots that want attention. And its all crap. Time to get out of the house and look at the real world.
Originally posted by sweersa
Hahaha You are pretty funny. Oh please, the US government wouldn't do that. Sure some aspects of it may be corrupt., but its still a great nation.Your political views are corrupt, you must visit the BS sites a lot. The US government wouldn't kill 2000 plus of its own people. That is an insane assumption. The CIA doesn't control the media, the media bashes many aspects of our Government and questions Bush all of the time.
The oil exported from the Middle East became lower after the time we invaded them, we obviously are not there for the oil.
We don't live in a dictatorship fool, we have free elections, Bush will be gone when his term is up, and we will have another new president. Adolf Hitler was a dictator, man, you need to stop reading far left emo BS propaganda and start looking at history and current events.
I have looked into some of the wierd conspiricy things before, its interesting at first, but then you become well aware that its all BS and some of it is even funny at times. Its mostly created by idiots that want attention. And its all crap. Time to get out of the house and look at the real world.
uh yes the government would and they have done things like that many other times in the past as well.yeah the CIA doesnt control the media,thats why so many former CIA agents have come forward over the years and have done talk show hosts saying they have plants in the media to control them.the CIA in fact killed kennedy because he wanted to pull out of vietnam.some CIA people have even come forwward over the years and confessed that on their deathbeds.
again you have been misinformed,of course were there just for the oil.Bush jr wanted this war because his father didnt finish it.
free elections? man you dont know anything about government.its okay though because for a long time I didnt either.I ALSO for a long time was brainwashed by the school sysytem into believing that.a year before we even had the elections I knew Bush was going to get elected because thats what the elite wanted.we the people dont put them in office or elect them,they get SELECTED by the government.Hillary will be the next president because thats who they have already selected.Or it may even be Guinan for going along with the government coverup of 9-11.there ARE other kinds of dictaterships you know.just because Bush will be gone doesnt mean were not in a dictatership country.
you need to read that website and read ALTERNATIVE newspapers.your just reading the propaganda from the government controlled newspapers and the government controlled school sysytems.the history you been reading about in school is B.S and propaganda.the sooneer you accept that the sooner you will learn you live in a dictatership.the sooner you start subscribing to ALTERNATIVE news sources that cover REAL news like MEDIA BYPASS or AMERICAN FREE PRESS or ROCK CREEK FREE PRESS.just google those newspaper names in to see how you can subscribe to them,as soon as you start listening to THEM instead of the corrupt media,you'll realise that.I DO look at current events its just I dont listen to the lies that the mainstream medid uses to brainwash people into believeing that muslims were behind all this.
Originally posted by sweersa
Hahaha You are pretty funny. Oh please, the US government wouldn't do that. Sure some aspects of it may be corrupt., but its still a great nation.Your political views are corrupt, you must visit the BS sites a lot. The US government wouldn't kill 2000 plus of its own people. That is an insane assumption. The CIA doesn't control the media, the media bashes many aspects of our Government and questions Bush all of the time.
The oil exported from the Middle East became lower after the time we invaded them, we obviously are not there for the oil.
We don't live in a dictatorship fool, we have free elections, Bush will be gone when his term is up, and we will have another new president. Adolf Hitler was a dictator, man, you need to stop reading far left emo BS propaganda and start looking at history and current events.
I have looked into some of the wierd conspiricy things before, its interesting at first, but then you become well aware that its all BS and some of it is even funny at times. Its mostly created by idiots that want attention. And its all crap. Time to get out of the house and look at the real world.
The Real World is hidden from you. If you think that the Bush Adminstration is good, then you need to look harder instead of just following blindly.
Originally posted by The Grey Fox
The Real World is hidden from you. If you think that the Bush Adminstration is good, then you need to look harder instead of just following blindly.
exactly.well said.and following blindly is believing the propaganda by the government controlled media and government controlled school systems that tell us that oswald killed kennedy,was the lone assassin in the third floor window despite witnesses down there who saw and testified to seeing gunmen behind the pickets fences firing a rifle and having the video show people running to the picket fence because they saw gunmen firing behind it.the worst thing to do is listen to the mainstream media and your history classes,best thing to do is check out that website and read those ALTERNATIVE newspapers that report REAL news.as i said,the controlled media, all they are interested in posting on the front page of major newspapers and consider real news is OJ SIMPSON or how your favorite football team did sunday. 🙄
Originally posted by Mr ParkerYou mean sixth floor window.
exactly.well said.and following blindly is believing the propaganda by the government controlled media and government controlled school systems that tell us that oswald killed kennedy,was the lone assassin in the third floor window despite witnesses down there who saw and testified to seeing gunmen behind the pickets fences firing a rifle and having the video show people running to the picket fence because they saw gunmen firing behind it.the worst thing to do is listen to the mainstream media and your history classes,best thing to do is check out that website and read those ALTERNATIVE newspapers that report REAL news.as i said,the controlled media, all they are interested in posting on the front page of major newspapers and consider real news is OJ SIMPSON or how your favorite football team did sunday. 🙄
Wow. Now the CIA killed Kennedy. I saw JFK, interesting movie, I personally believe the Communists had something to do with his murder, and that two shooters or more were involved, not the US gov't. Troops were eventually pulled out of Vietnam, so your theory doesn't hold up.
Anyways, I don't believe in a majority of the 'OMG teh government is teh EVILZ!!! emo stuff. It makes for a good story though.
I don't think our government would kill off 2000 innocent citizens and a president...say it out load, doesn't sound right. Osama himself and his friends claimed 9/11 was their failt, and the terrorists were ID'ed.
If you really believe all of that government conspiricy BS, I have no idea why you are still here, if I believed that the US government did all of what you said (which i don't) I would be in Mexico or Canada in the blink of an eye.
Oh, and we are not in the middle east for oil, we have enough here and in other places. Oil production in Iraq has been less sense the Iraq war, if we took it over for the oil, it would be more. A lot more.
Originally posted by sweersaThe Iraq war is there to be sustained, just like Vietnam was. As for JFK, http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=2928756561478705121 this video is a very good documentary film. I suggest you watch it. (I'll admit, there are a few mistakes there, but eventually you will see concrete proof there is a conspiracy).
Wow. Now the CIA killed Kennedy. I saw JFK, interesting movie, I personally believe the Communists had something to do with his murder, and that two shooters or more were involved, not the US gov't. Troops were eventually pulled out of Vietnam, so your theory doesn't hold up.Anyways, I don't believe in a majority of the 'OMG teh government is teh EVILZ!!! emo stuff. It makes for a good story though.
I don't think our government would kill off 2000 innocent citizens and a president...say it out load, doesn't sound right. Osama himself and his friends claimed 9/11 was their failt, and the terrorists were ID'ed.
If you really believe all of that government conspiricy BS, I have no idea why you are still here, if I believed that the US government did all of what you said (which i don't) I would be in Mexico or Canada in the blink of an eye.
Oh, and we are not in the middle east for oil, we have enough here and in other places. Oil production in Iraq has been less sense the Iraq war, if we took it over for the oil, it would be more. A lot more.
Originally posted by lord xyz
The Iraq war is there to be sustained, just like Vietnam was. As for JFK, http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=2928756561478705121 this video is a very good documentary film. I suggest you watch it. (I'll admit, there are a few mistakes there, but eventually you will see concrete proof there is a conspiracy).
I have seen it. Its a good movie. Great piece of fiction and non-fiction.
I still think the commies got him.
Lee Harvy Oswald was a commie. (sort of) And I am willing to bet his other shooter(s) friend(s) were commies also.
Originally posted by sweersaIn the film it says that Lee Harvey Oswald was an FBI agent framed by the CIA because it's the CIA/Watergate burgalers who did it. They framed Oswald because Oswald was working with Hoover to shut down the CIA for the bay of pigs and disobeying Kennedy.
I have seen it. Its a good movie. Great piece of fiction and non-fiction.I still think the commies got him.
Lee Harvy Oswald was a commie. (sort of) And I am willing to bet his other shooter(s) friend(s) were commies also.