Is Revolution Doom to Fail in our Modern Times?

Started by Eis3 pages


I always thought Fukuyama explained it better. But yes their views are incorrect and, at least Fukuyama is, sometimes plain wrong.
You mean Futurama, I am quite the fan as well.

Does anyone else feel that sociology, psychology, politics and all other commonly referred to as "unreal sciences" students don't have a thought of their own?

Just kidding, I love you Fire....not anyone else though....****ing not real sciences.

Is that what Math students tell themselves to feel better about their own? Everyone hates you, you know that, right?

Originally posted by Eis
Is that what Math students tell themselves to feel better about their own? Everyone hates you, you know that, right?

And you know we are just hated because we are superior....we wouldn't want it any other way.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And you know we are just hated because we are superior....we wouldn't want it any other way.

Hahaha shut up nerd. You are one too, you know that, right?

Originally posted by Eis
Hahaha shut up nerd. You are one too, you know that, right?

A nerd? Yes, I knew that.

Revolution is inevitable in any society... Sooner or later the bottom drops out.

In the USA I doubt it if that would happen.The Goverment aready has too much control over us for that to happen.And I doubt it if anyone has the guts to take over the goverment anyway.jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
In the USA I doubt it if that would happen.The Goverment aready has too much control over us for that to happen.And I doubt it if anyone has the guts to take over the goverment anyway.jm

It is not the U.S. government having "too much control" and no one having the guts to do so.

Revolutions happen when people are united and have a common cause. Everyone in this country regardless of race, gender, and so on are getting ****ed over in similar fashions but they do not notice it because of the disconnection and preconceived notions that come out this era of media which makes manipulation soooooooooooo easy. People are already stupid as it is.

A common cause is the biggest obstacle but it is highly unlikely in any modern society. 9/11 happened when I was 13 and I knew something was wrong from day one when BOTH of the towers fell straight down because I was concerned that the towers would fall over on so much other stuff. Didn't happen - that was not feasible by a petroleum fire that can melt the frames of the buildings to begin with. But everything is a conspiracy until the majority thinks otherwise, or, more accurately, the media says it is true.

This is the problem and it would take a horrible mismanagement of politics for our generation or following ones to start a revolution. We sure as hell do nothing other than say how stupid everyone is. We watch them. Laugh at em. But we do nothing to enlighten them. We must help them not necessarily for a revolution but because they need to be informed. I mean look at Starhawk! Do we want a bunch of Starhawk juniors running around?

Originally posted by Eis
You mean Futurama, I am quite the fan as well.

No I meant Fukuyama. Ever heard of Francis Fukuyama? He wrote The End of History and the Last Man 🙄

Now about Futurama I always liked The Simpsons more.

Originally posted by Fire
No I meant Fukuyama. Ever heard of Francis Fukuyama? He wrote The End of History and the Last Man 🙄

Now about Futurama I always liked The Simpsons more.

HAHAHA, oh great shit.

No but I can't see it happening that is all I am saying.jm

Originally posted by Fire

If people are happy with their lives they will not easily start a revolution. But how long will people in modern western countries remain happy with their lives? What if the last steps in Maslow's hierarchy of needs grow beyond the reach of our modern countries?

In those cases I see revolution as a possibility.

I think he refer to a certain section of the class people been happy. Meaning that all revolutions usually start because of class differences. Now a classless society...would be interesting to see them revolt. 😛

Originally posted by Fire
No I meant Fukuyama. Ever heard of Francis Fukuyama? He wrote The End of History and the Last Man 🙄

Now about Futurama I always liked The Simpsons more.

Both are good shows!jm 😉

A revolution that will overthrow the government? Sure why not, all you would need is a government that is hated enough. Can't be that hard to reach. Besides there might actually be a revolution in Turkey soon, and they are definitely a modern nation.

Besides that, I don't know. In most modern western country's people are having immigration problems. That might be a good enough reason for people to actually start doing something, or at least for far more right winged governments to get into power. Which could in turn lead to a growing unrest among the "new" inhabitants of the country...

So yeah I do think a coup could happen.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I think he refer to a certain section of the class people been happy. Meaning that all revolutions usually start because of class differences. Now a classless society...would be interesting to see them revolt. 😛

too bad we all know the classless society is an illusion.

Except for the Amish....😛

Originally posted by Fire
No I meant Fukuyama. Ever heard of Francis Fukuyama? He wrote The End of History and the Last Man 🙄

Now about Futurama I always liked The Simpsons more.

No taste alert! oh

Originally posted by Fire
too bad we all know the classless society is an illusion.

What kind of classless society are you talking about?

I would imagine that, sooner or later (probably much later), as more and more wealth is accumulated by the Haves and Have-Mores (especially if it's at the expense of Those-Who-Don't-Worship-$$$), at some point Those-Who-Don't-Worship will say, Enough! and demand some kind of change.

But again, I don't see this happening in our lifetime.