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What do you mean shortcomings?

- He killed Magneto
- He one-shotted Xavier with a telepathic move
- His personalities were fused when he saw what he had wrought


You cant possibly compare those feats, to what Nate has shown. As Shaman he has more power, more self control, and more experience in taking down bigger threats then Magneto or Xavier.


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You cant possibly compare those feats, to what Nate has shown. As Shaman he has more power, more self control, and more experience in taking down bigger threats then Magneto or Xavier.


Has he one-shotted anyone of low herald calibur and above?

Tell me of these unbelievable super feats that Shaman Nate has. I didn't see them in the X-man series.


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He also time-travelled using just his psychic powers (something Nate never accomplished) and was such a threat the Watchers interfered by warning the Shiar empire of what was happening.


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The only thing that Legion hasn't displayed is the ability to destroy planet, but I don't see why he would do that. He's trying to help mutant kind.


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Has he one-shotted anyone of low herald calibur and above?

Tell me of these unbelievable super feats that Shaman Nate has. I didn't see them in the X-man series.


A noob magneto is not a low herald. Taking down Xavier and a group of X-Men are its best feat. Who else did he take out??? oh right thats it. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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He also time-travelled using just his psychic powers (something Nate never accomplished) and was such a threat the Watchers interfered by warning the Shiar empire of what was happening.

Time Travel no. Isolated time freeze yes.


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A noob magneto is not a low herald. Taking down Xavier and a group of X-Men are its best feat. Who else did he take out??? oh right thats it. roll eyes (sarcastic)


He wasn't around for very long. During his time, he toyed with Magneto and barely even acknowledged the X-Men, including taking lightning blasts from Storm.


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Time Travel no. Isolated time freeze yes.


Legion's actions were able to alter history. That's a lot more than doing an isolated time freeze.


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Psylocke(Current or Classic) & Rachel Summers go down fast and very hard.

Leaves 3 against 1.


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In the latest issue of x-men legacy...Exodus was actually out-dueling xavier on the physic plane for a while in an all-out "psy-war" that was felt by all telepaths across the planet...fyi for people who may give the edge to team 1


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In the latest issue of x-men legacy...Exodus was actually out-dueling xavier on the physic plane for a while in an all-out "psy-war" that was felt by all telepaths across the planet...fyi for people who may give the edge to team 1


Best part is...Exodus wasn't trying to fight or kill Xavier. shifty He was trying to persuade an Xavier to lead the Acolytes.


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Yeah but was Xavier 100% in that fight I thought his head mind was still kinda screwed up.

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Yeah but was Xavier 100% in that fight I thought his head mind was still kinda screwed up.


His memories were, his skills certainly weren't considering he knew what a post-hypnotic inhibition was. Exodus restored his brain seamlessly on a sub-atomic level according to Mike Carey.
All Exodus did in that entire fight was projected distorted memories of Xavier's past (Which Xavier noted) and whack Magneto and Karima with a TK blast. shifty


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Best part is...Exodus wasn't trying to fight or kill Xavier. shifty He was trying to persuade an Xavier to lead the Acolytes.


he may have also inadvertently unlocked xavier's full powers...powers that were held in check by his self-imposed restrictions and doubts brought on by failures...that's my interpretation and in either case it's pretty damn crazy

Exodus used to be my favorite x-character back in the day...loved his original costume...fantastic contrast to magneto's purple and red

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Xavier won the fight

Rachel has defeated Necrom

As campy as it was, Betsy pawned Merlyn in the silly X-Men: Die by the Sword

From wat I know about Nate. He's powerful


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Current-powered up Xavier none the less.

Exodus impressed me greatly in that 'persuasion'.


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As campy as it was, Betsy pawned Merlyn in the silly X-Men: Die by the Swordl


yeah that was just heinous

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he may have also inadvertently unlocked xavier's full powers...powers that were held in check by his self-imposed restrictions and doubts brought on by failures...that's my interpretation and in either case it's pretty damn crazy

Exodus used to be my favorite x-character back in the day...loved his original costume...fantastic contrast to magneto's purple and red


That's true as well, and Xavier just got an official power boost as well.

One of the reason's I started liking Exodus because his dialogue is the perfectcase where even though his dialogue is always worded so eloquently it's still bigotry.

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[B]Xavier won the fight

Rachel has defeated Necrom


Not the same Rachel I'm afraid. Rachel has been retconned by CC's pen.

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As campy as it was, Betsy pawned Merlyn in the silly X-Men: Die by the Sword


And gets her butt kicked by Chung li and Vampires...


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Psylocke(Current or Classic) & Rachel Summers go down fast and very hard.

Leaves 3 against 1.
Nate one shotted exodus before. I dont think emmas can do shit to him.
1 vs 1

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Nate one shotted exodus before. I dont think emmas can do shit to him.
1 vs 1


That Exodus was weakened after his fight with Holocaust when he encountered Nate. He was reduced to a power leech. And it wasn't a one-shotting. Weakened Exodus did quite well considering the circumstances.

And you're underestimating Emma she'll be more then a nuisance.

(This was after Psi-War Nate had his TK in this, he also had his Telepathy but didn't realize he had it. He used it in the issue subconsciously though)

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Gaia stopped the fight.

Legion is the key to winning though.


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Nate one shotted exodus before. I dont think emmas can do shit to him.
1 vs 1

More importantly, Nate over powered Cables mentor when he decided to use the one time fail safe on him.
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Legion's actions were able to alter history. That's a lot more than doing an isolated time freeze.


Granted, time travel is a powerful ability that can be exploited. However, so is BFR and Nate happens to be extremely good at sending characters across universes.


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Granted, time travel is a powerful ability that can be exploited. However, so is BFR and Nate happens to be extremely good at sending characters across universes.


Well, I've never seen Legion teleport, and since BFR is allowed in this battle, I can't argue against that.


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