Originally posted by Genosha
Jean is a relatively boring character, who had to vampirize her own daughter to be palatable to the masses.On the other hand, you need a few uninteresting mutants to highlight the interesting ones.
You don't think Rachel is more interesting than Jean? Rachel was interesting, back when she first arrived and had run ins with Selene. I don't like her in the current uncanny x-men. Screwing the phoenix sword guy and all that, ugh.
I tend to disagree, Jean herself is almost completly unaware of her own sexuality. Especially when compared to characters like Rogue, who's all pent up passion and Emma, who radiates seduction.
If you look at it historically Kitty Pryde has always been the X-men's sex symbol. She's the spunky girl next door, where as Jean represents the privliged upper class. Everything comes easy to her because she's smart and pretty, and everybody (in the comic world) loves her for it. Even with the challenges she's faced, she's nevery really developed as a character and yet she's always forgiven. Because she's Jean.
Other characters aren't alowed to hate her because she's so perfect. As a result we hate her double to make up for it. The universe craves balance.
Originally posted by llagrok
Are you serious? I never liked Excalibur much for some reason.
How could you not have liked Excalibur?!?
The characters are great, the story lines are some of the best written. I was horrified when they disbanded and thrilled when the started up again. Personnally, the only x title I liked more was Generation X. I was also heart broken when that ended.
Originally posted by Genosha
I tend to disagree, Jean herself is almost completly unaware of her own sexuality. Especially when compared to characters like Rogue, who's all pent up passion and Emma, who radiates seduction.If you look at it historically Kitty Pryde has always been the X-men's sex symbol. She's the spunky girl next door, where as Jean represents the privliged upper class. Everything comes easy to her because she's smart and pretty, and everybody (in the comic world) loves her for it. Even with the challenges she's faced, she's nevery really developed as a character and yet she's always forgiven. Because she's Jean.
Other characters aren't alowed to hate her because she's so perfect. As a result we hate her double to make up for it. The universe craves balance.
* yes, Jean herself is somewhat unaware of her own sexuality but being "that" makes her oozing with sex appeal... how ironic... and not to mention, the writers and the artwork, her outfits, her costumes, ah you know what i mean... and she's portrayed as "perfect" but that's not what she really is or was... may i know what is this "because-she's-Jean" thingy? 😉
No no no, let Jean go. She strikes me as everything I dislike in a female character. Generic attitude towards things, ridiculous power that lets her get away without ever having to get her hands dirty, and the fact that shes the most force fed female x-man all leads to my contempt. "Hey, lets match her with Wolverine, then people will be all over her". Yeah whatever.
Yes, get rid of her already.
She has never interested me in anyway.
I mean, really, what do people find appealing about her?
• Crappy nick name: "Marvel Girl" wow, that just screams originality.
• Lame superhero wardrobe.
• Boring powers.
• She dies, she comes back, she dies, she comes back, she dies, she comes back and so on...
What?!?! What alternate time line did you fall out of? While Wolvie's not my favorite, one thing you can always say about him is at least he's not Jean.
F***, I mean really people. An interesting character is one that has to struggle and suffer and sometimes even fail before overcoming. Jean lacks an engaing personality and the Phoenix is too over powered. We all know before the fight starts what the outcome is going to be, so who the %*@ cares?
That's the reason that I love Gen X and Excalibur. They aren't the strongest mutants, but they're fun to read, and you still have the ability to be surprised by what the characters are (or aren't) capable of.