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Mad Jim Jaspers vs Abraxas
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Mr Master
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Originally posted by Utrigita
and then one can ask himself whether spirit is reality ore not but that is for the religious forum to discuss

It's ok to ask.

Yes, the Spiritual Plane is one of several that exist in every Universe.

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May 13th, 2007 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Sweet Jesus for the love of God's sake!

Tell me why would Mr Master lie, does he have any reason for doing so?
- Thought not.

Have you guy's read both the arc's?
- Well Mr Master has, and as stated, there is no reason for him to lie.

And enough with your accusation's if you think he's wrong simply get the comic's read them through, find proof which opose his scan them and post them.

Without proof your statements is as much worth as water in the ocean.

At least Mr Master backs up his statements with might I say, flawless evidence.

That has got to be one of the creepiest things I've ever read no expression

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Utrigita
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http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?...smayhem2sh0.jpg

Abraxas floats around and reality is falling apart around him

http://img281.imageshack.us/my.php?...illsallg3ps.jpg

killing Galactus throughout the multiverse and opsetting the balance all out the multiverse

Oblivion is a little difficuelt to post scans of since oblivion just is ... oblivion.

Oblivion cannot be killed by the UN since Oblivion exist when a area is nullified

Good enough for you Thanos_THOTU ???

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Well I'm simply tierd at fanboy's overlooking proof because they don't like it.

May 13th, 2007 09:35 PM

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Utrigita
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Originally posted by Mr Master
It's ok to ask.

Yes, the Spiritual Plane is one of several that exist in every Universe.

but the question is more can a soul be consideret reality and thus be warped by a being like MJJ have never seen him manipulating souls.

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May 13th, 2007 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Well I'm simply tierd at fanboy's overlooking proof because they don't like it.

It's not the points that you're trying to make it's you disturbing obsession with MrMaster.

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May 13th, 2007 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by Mr Master

That's his purpose,

I doubt he sits around and analyzes his own existence,

which is a looping paradox to say the least.

Oblivion is Nothingness.

So yes,

Oblivion is the ultimate Concept, I've always said it.

I know but it apperas that it wouldn't kill him that having reality erased around him.

The ultimate and strongest concept of them all

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May 13th, 2007 09:37 PM

Mr Master
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I mean destroying a single universe would not have been enough to kill 616 Jaspers.

ie Jaspers wouldn't neccisarily survive everything the CN could throw at him just the power of destroying a single universe.

I can tell you this,

Merlyn himself could have crushed and Remade the Multiverse himself, (without the CN)

And Merlyn himself said he didn't have the power to stop Jaspers.

I don't think CN would have ever been able to hurt 616 Jaspers.

You guys are confusing yourselves in one part,

you're distinguishing levels of Nullification, as if there are any.

Nullification on a Universal scale is just as deadly as nullification on a Multiversal scale,

Only more Space is being affected by the SAME Energies.

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I meant that since Myrlen said that destroying a universe wouldn't be enough that a single shot from the CN would not (in this case) be as dangerous as what the UN can do.

Again,

the CN does not shoot.

It Nullifies 4" Crystals.

These 4" Crystals contain the Life-Force of any given Universe.

Nullify the Crystal = no more Temporal Consciousness, (the Life-Force)

which supports the existence of a Universe.

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May 13th, 2007 09:38 PM

Mr Master
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Originally posted by Utrigita
but the question is more can a soul be consideret reality and thus be warped by a being like MJJ have never seen him manipulating souls.

He manipulates Reality,

Reality = everything except nothingness.

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May 13th, 2007 09:40 PM

Symmetric Chaos
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Merlyn himself could have crushed and Remade the Multiverse himself, (without the CN)

Didn't know that.

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Nullification on a Universal scale is just as deadly as nullification on a Multiversal scale

Untrue. If I'm the size of a multiverse a universe sized blast will be far less deadly than a multiversal blast.

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Originally posted by Mr Master

Again,

the CN does not shoot.

It Nullifies 4" Crystals.

These 4" Crystals contain the Life-Force of any given Universe.

Nullify the Crystal = no more Temporal Consciousness, (the Life-Force)

which supports the existence of a Universe.

I prefer "shoot" to "destroy a four inch crystal that contains the essence of the universe" because I have to convey the concept more than once and "shoot" is much much shorter.

This is also completely irrelivent.

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Mr Master
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I know but it apperas that it wouldn't kill him that having reality erased around him.

Who?

Abraxas or Oblivion?

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The ultimate and strongest concept of them all

I wouldn't say the most powerful, possibly.

But without question by logic and definition Oblivion will be the last Concept to survive,

and still will never fade even when it's all gone.

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May 13th, 2007 09:43 PM

Utrigita
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personally I think it was crap merlyn saying that he couldn't kill Jasper it seemed like one of the biggeste schemes in the marvel history I mean first sending Captain Britain (CB) to 238 to get killed by Fury created by MJJ from 238, then having him resurrected knowing that the Fury would follow and then kill MJJ 616. He showed enormous amount of intellect and skills when planning this and after all 616 was just a piece on his chess board. I seemed more like a training to Roma in my eyes.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Who?

Abraxas or Oblivion?

I wouldn't say the most powerful, possibly.

But without question by logic and definition Oblivion will be the last Concept to survive,

and still will never fade even when it's all gone.

Abraxas, it don't hurt him that reality is being destroyed, he does it himself and shows no sigh of discomfort (know it is his purpose but erasing a universe ore a multiverse containing Abraxas apparently wouldn't hurt him. The only way to "kill" him is to rewrite the multiverse that Abraxas previously existed in.

I would the only one that wouldn't be hurt my nulllification, actually the larger the better.

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May 13th, 2007 09:46 PM

Mr Master
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Didn't know that.

We learn as we go.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Untrue. If I'm the size of a multiverse a universe sized blast will be far less deadly than a multiversal blast.

Again,

the range of the blast is greater,

but the same Energies are at work,

Nullification Energies. smile

So very True.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I prefer "shoot" to "destroy a four inch crystal that contains the essence of the universe" because I have to convey the concept more than once and "shoot" is much much shorter.

This is also completely irrelivent.

It's irrelevant cause it proves my point?

The CN does NOT and is NOT constricted to destroying one Universe at a time.

The Crystals can be simply gathered with a thought by Roma or Merlyn, thrown in the furnace (or CN) together and crushed simultaneously at once.

Not only taking out UniverseS, taking them all out.

In ONE "Shot."

Is it inconceivable that a being that can Remake the Multiverse,

can summon all those Crystals instantaneously?

Or they can simply Stop Time altogether and take as long as they wish,

as long as it requires.

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May 13th, 2007 09:50 PM

Mr Master
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Originally posted by Utrigita
Abraxas, it don't hurt him that reality is being destroyed, he does it himself and shows no sigh of discomfort (know it is his purpose but erasing a universe ore a multiverse containing Abraxas apparently wouldn't hurt him. The only way to "kill" him is to rewrite the multiverse that Abraxas previously existed in.

If you want to force yourself to believe that, go right ahead.

Otherwise pick up FF#46 - 49, and the 2001 annual.

Then we'll proceed from there.

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May 13th, 2007 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's not the points that you're trying to make it's you disturbing obsession with MrMaster.

What?! - I'm just saying that he back up his claims and I approve of it.

May 13th, 2007 09:56 PM

Utrigita
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okay will do that wouldn't be tonight will have to go down to the store and read them and then we will talk again. And if he doesn't have them any longer then it will take even more time.

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May 13th, 2007 09:56 PM

Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by Mr Master
It's irrelevant cause it proves my point?

My choice of words proves your point? What the f**k?

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