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Well im not completely ignorant. I was reading West Coast Avengers for awhile you know, but yeah I know bios arent accurate my point was that as far as I know WM was not as strong as people like The Hulk and Hercules.

In all the showings I have seen of WM I ahve never seen him have strength as good as Thor or Hulk.


Ahh you sneaked in an edit, did you read any of his solo run in the 90's?

He has held up Avengers Island when it was teetering on a colum of dead and crumbling lava men, only for a couple of seconds but considering the weight of Hydro base and the fact he was channeling his ionic energy through his rocket belt to keep him aloft very impressive.

Hercules has also compared his blows to Thors and he was said to hit as hard as Thor's hammer.

When Hulk apeared in his mini he and Prof Hulk were debating who was stronger.

I guess it all depends on how much you ahve read, personaly I wouldn't have said he was as strong as they were no, but he is a legit class 100.

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Ahh you sneaked in an edit, did you read any of his solo run in the 90's?


No.

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He has held up Avengers Island when it was teetering on a colum of dead and crumbling lava men, only for a couple of seconds but considering the weight of Hydro base and the fact he was channeling his ionic energy through his rocket belt to keep him aloft very impressive.

Hercules has also compared his blows to Thors and he was said to hit as hard as Thor's hammer.

When Hulk apeared in his mini he and Prof Hulk were debating who was stronger.

I guess it all depends on how much you ahve read, personaly I wouldn't have said he was as strong as they were no, but he is a legit class 100.


Fair enough. I still think Caps upgrade are going to help alot though.


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I don't see him beating Venom...erm.


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I don't see him beating Venom...erm.


You're having a laugh. Do you know how insanely powerful Spiderman would be with Caps skill set?


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Makes it to Gorgon imo
your an idiot and a fanboy. Cap without the np psyblocker and if gorgon had the stare would still win, Spiderman has super speed, even if gorgon knew what moves were coming he still wouldnt be able to react fast enough to block them, hed simply know that he was getting his head knocked off, and the stare wouldnt matter, its overrated not only does gorgon rarely ever use it, but a super strength cap would have knocked his head off his shoulders with the shield before it could even happen.


Cap gets to WM from there...it gets tough, i think he could take gamora though...


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4 is tricky. I can see that going either way. If it's Gargan, Cap gets to Wonder Man. Brock on the other hand, 50/50 either way. If he gets past Brock, then Wonder Man is tricky. He CAN win, but it would depend on which version of WM it was and where they fought. If it's somewhere like a city with lots of surfaces, I'd give the edge to Spidey-Cap. Open field, arena setting, Wonder Man.


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Cap with spideys powers would make short work of Venom.


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Depends, if this is Brock Venom than Cap gets to him and dies.
If Gargan, then gets further.


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Stop at three.

Btw, Wolverine should be at 5, and Sabertooth at 3.

And Hulk should be at the place of Gamora.


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4 is tricky. I can see that going either way. If it's Gargan, Cap gets to Wonder Man. Brock on the other hand, 50/50 either way.


Its Brock. Please tell me how Brock is going to beat Cap-Spiderman?

Cap at normal strength level has knocked out Thunderball spark the **** out. Thunderball was class 10.

A dying Cap has made Giant Mans whole body go numb with one finger. Give Cap 15 ton strength what the **** is Brock gonna do.

Furthermore Spiderman is faster than Cap but Cap can punch Spiderman in the face all day. What the **** is Brcok gonna do, Brock is gonnaget his ass handed to him.

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If he gets past Brock, then Wonder Man is tricky. He CAN win, but it would depend on which version of WM it was and where they fought. If it's somewhere like a city with lots of surfaces, I'd give the edge to Spidey-Cap. Open field, arena setting, Wonder Man.


Its the current verison of WM

"Cap at normal strength level has knocked out Thunderball spark the **** out. Thunderball was class 10.

A dying Cap has made Giant Mans whole body go numb with one finger. Give Cap 15 ton strength what the **** is Brock gonna do.

Furthermore Spiderman is faster than Cap but Cap can punch Spiderman in the face all day. What the **** is Brcok gonna do, Brock is gonnaget his ass handed to him."




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Depends, if this is Brock Venom than Cap gets to him and dies.
If Gargan, then gets further.


Its Brock like I said.....

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Stop at three.

Btw, Wolverine should be at 5, and Sabertooth at 3.

And Hulk should be at the place of Gamora.


Great joke. Keep em coming.


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Its Brock like I said.....


In this case Cap stops at him, unless he has a sonicgun nearby.
And Spider-man's strength and speed will only help him to survive longer but in the end he still dies.


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loses at 1

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Stops at Venom.

Oh, and Gorgon would rape him.

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In this case Cap stops at him, unless he has a sonicgun nearby.
And Spider-man's strength and speed will only help him to survive longer but in the end he still dies.


Did you read anything I posted? Please explain how Venom beats Cap.

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Stops at Venom.

Oh, and Gorgon would rape him.


Explain how Venom wins. no expression


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Did you read anything I posted? Please explain how Venom beats Cap.
Um... yeah. Class 15 strength + spider sense and durability + Rogers skills and shield. He still dies a painful death.
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Explain how Venom wins. no expression
Explain how Cap stands a chance.no expression


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Um... yeah. Class 15 strength + spider sense and durability + Rogers skills and shield. He still dies a painful death.
Explain how Cap stands a chance.no expression


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Its Brock. Please tell me how Brock is going to beat Cap-Spiderman?

Cap at normal strength level has knocked out Thunderball spark the **** out. Thunderball was class 10.

A dying Cap has made Giant Mans whole body go numb with one finger. Give Cap 15 ton strength what the **** is Brock gonna do.

Furthermore Spiderman is faster than Cap but Cap can punch Spiderman in the face all day. What the **** is Brcok gonna do, Brock is gonnaget his ass handed to him.




Furthermore if Cap has spide sense it would be more advanced.


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Uh, Spider-man's strenght doesn't do anything against Venom usually, I don't see pressure point attacks or something similiar working through the symbiote.

Venom's fast as Spider-man which enables him to tag Spider-man. I don't see how Cap could hurt him, maybe with a shield throw powerful enough, but I think Venom could dodge it or catch it. rebounding shots from the walls wouldn't really do any good either as Venom has a 360 degree vision (the Symbiote sees for him)

Cap-man could propably block his punches and such, but what good would a shield do against 10 tendrils? Invisibility?

Cap-man would beat the classic Venom though. (The suit didn't offer that much protection back in the ol' good days, nor was Venom that good either)


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Uh, Spider-man's strenght doesn't do anything against Venom usually, I don't see pressure point attacks or something similiar working through the symbiote.


If Cap can KO Thunderball at class 1 strength at class 15 strength he will be able to KO somebody who can lift a 150 tons.

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Venom's fast as Spider-man which enables him to tag Spider-man. I don't see how Cap could hurt him, maybe with a shield throw powerful enough, but I think Venom could dodge it or catch it. rebounding shots from the walls wouldn't really do any good either as Venom has a 360 degree vision (the Symbiote sees for him)

Cap-man could propably block his punches and such, but what good would a shield do against 10 tendrils? Invisibility?

Cap-man would beat the classic Venom though. (The suit didn't offer that much protection back in the ol' good days, nor was Venom that good either)


Cap with spider sense and agility would be even faster. Spiderman is afster than Cap but Cap can punch Spiderman all day. Cap would have no trouble dodging Venom.

I would Beast as slightly slower than Cap or the same in terms of reflexes and look what Cap did to Beast he compeletely demolished him. If venom has the same speed level as Spiderman Cap is gonna punch him up all day, the only chance is his tendrils and if Cap wants to he can keep his distance and use his shield.


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your an idiot and a fanboy. Cap without the np psyblocker and if gorgon had the stare would still win, Spiderman has super speed, even if gorgon knew what moves were coming he still wouldnt be able to react fast enough to block them, hed simply know that he was getting his head knocked off, and the stare wouldnt matter, its overrated not only does gorgon rarely ever use it, but a super strength cap would have knocked his head off his shoulders with the shield before it could even happen.


Cap gets to WM from there...it gets tough, i think he could take gamora though...


With those remarks you are the idiot.


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With those remarks you are the idiot.


In all afirness I think he can make it to Gamora, but im more polite. big grin


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